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From: "Richard L. Barnes" <rbarnes@bbn.com>
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Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2012 17:09:38 -0500
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To: Flemming Andreasen <fandreas@cisco.com>
Cc: mmusic@ietf.org, Paul Kyzivat <pkyzivat@alum.mit.edu>
Subject: Re: [MMUSIC] NEED WG CONSENSUS: media-loopback is all-or-nothing
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I lean in favor of YES, because it seems to be much simpler and address =
the most pressing use cases.

(I haven't been involved deeply in the discussion, though; is there =
something I'm missing?)



On Nov 20, 2012, at 4:31 PM, Flemming Andreasen <fandreas@cisco.com> =
wrote:

> One more "NO" vote - I also don't see a reason to mandate such a =
restriction as it may limit the use cases.
>=20
> -- Flemming
>=20
> On 11/20/12 1:42 PM, Paul Kyzivat wrote:
>> NO
>>=20
>> *Why* should the draft be limited this way if it need not be?
>>=20
>>    Thanks,
>>    Paul
>>=20
>> On 11/20/12 1:16 PM, Hadriel Kaplan wrote:
>>> Howdy,
>>> during IESG review of the media-loopback draft, a discussion arose =
regarding the language around indicating media-loopback support per =
media description (i.e., per m-line), in sections 3.1 and 3.2.
>>>=20
>>> My interpretation/understanding was we were requiring ALL m-lines to =
indicate media-loopback; in other words it's an all-or-nothing in both =
the offer+answer, and either every media stream is looped back, or none =
are.  However the text currently doesn't make this clear, and it could =
be argued either way, with pro's/con's either way too; so I'd like the =
WG's consensus on whether it should in fact be an all-or-none approach, =
or not.
>>>=20
>>> Please respond to this email by **Tuesday, December 4th** with a =
"YES" if the draft should mandate ALL media be looped-back, or "NO" if =
it should allow a hybrid approach of some streams being looped while =
others are not.
>>>=20
>>> For reference, the draft is here:
>>> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-mmusic-media-loopback-24
>>>=20
>>> -hadriel
>>>=20
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