Re: [MMUSIC] NEED WG CONSENSUS: media-loopback is all-or-nothing
Paul Kyzivat <pkyzivat@alum.mit.edu> Tue, 20 November 2012 20:50 UTC
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Subject: Re: [MMUSIC] NEED WG CONSENSUS: media-loopback is all-or-nothing
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On 11/20/12 2:54 PM, Hadriel Kaplan wrote: > > Are you asking for someone to defend/explain the advantages are for limiting it, or just giving that as the rationale for your NO vote? > (I don't mean this in a negative way - I'm literally not sure if you're asking a question or being rhetorical) It was primarily a justification for my NO vote. But it is also an invitation for someone who votes yes to convince me of why. Thanks, Paul > -hadriel > > > On Nov 20, 2012, at 1:42 PM, Paul Kyzivat <pkyzivat@alum.mit.edu> wrote: > >> NO >> >> *Why* should the draft be limited this way if it need not be? >> >> Thanks, >> Paul >> >> On 11/20/12 1:16 PM, Hadriel Kaplan wrote: >>> Howdy, >>> during IESG review of the media-loopback draft, a discussion arose regarding the language around indicating media-loopback support per media description (i.e., per m-line), in sections 3.1 and 3.2. >>> >>> My interpretation/understanding was we were requiring ALL m-lines to indicate media-loopback; in other words it's an all-or-nothing in both the offer+answer, and either every media stream is looped back, or none are. However the text currently doesn't make this clear, and it could be argued either way, with pro's/con's either way too; so I'd like the WG's consensus on whether it should in fact be an all-or-none approach, or not. >>> >>> Please respond to this email by **Tuesday, December 4th** with a "YES" if the draft should mandate ALL media be looped-back, or "NO" if it should allow a hybrid approach of some streams being looped while others are not. >>> >>> For reference, the draft is here: >>> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-mmusic-media-loopback-24 >>> >>> -hadriel >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> mmusic mailing list >>> mmusic@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mmusic >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> mmusic mailing list >> mmusic@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mmusic > >
- [MMUSIC] NEED WG CONSENSUS: media-loopback is all… Hadriel Kaplan
- Re: [MMUSIC] NEED WG CONSENSUS: media-loopback is… Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [MMUSIC] NEED WG CONSENSUS: media-loopback is… Bernard Aboba
- Re: [MMUSIC] NEED WG CONSENSUS: media-loopback is… Hadriel Kaplan
- Re: [MMUSIC] NEED WG CONSENSUS: media-loopback is… Hadriel Kaplan
- Re: [MMUSIC] NEED WG CONSENSUS: media-loopback is… Bernard Aboba
- Re: [MMUSIC] NEED WG CONSENSUS: media-loopback is… Gunnar Hellström
- Re: [MMUSIC] NEED WG CONSENSUS: media-loopback is… Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [MMUSIC] NEED WG CONSENSUS: media-loopback is… Flemming Andreasen
- Re: [MMUSIC] NEED WG CONSENSUS: media-loopback is… Richard L. Barnes
- Re: [MMUSIC] NEED WG CONSENSUS: media-loopback is… Flemming Andreasen
- Re: [MMUSIC] NEED WG CONSENSUS: media-loopback is… Muthu Arul Mozhi Perumal (mperumal)
- Re: [MMUSIC] NEED WG CONSENSUS: media-loopback is… Parthasarathi R
- Re: [MMUSIC] NEED WG CONSENSUS: media-loopback is… Cullen Jennings (fluffy)
- Re: [MMUSIC] NEED WG CONSENSUS: media-loopback is… Hutton, Andrew
- Re: [MMUSIC] NEED WG CONSENSUS: media-loopback is… Enrico Marocco
- Re: [MMUSIC] NEED WG CONSENSUS: media-loopback is… Qin Wu
- Re: [MMUSIC] NEED WG CONSENSUS: media-loopback is… Nikos Leontsinis
- Re: [MMUSIC] NEED WG CONSENSUS: media-loopback is… Gonzalo Camarillo
- Re: [MMUSIC] NEED WG CONSENSUS: media-loopback is… Hadriel Kaplan