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Re: [MMUSIC] Bundle, TURN and Legacy Interop

Christer Holmberg <christer.holmberg@ericsson.com> Wed, 13 March 2013 20:11 UTC

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From: Christer Holmberg <christer.holmberg@ericsson.com>
To: "Hutton, Andrew" <andrew.hutton@siemens-enterprise.com>, "mmusic_ietf.org" <mmusic@ietf.org>
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Subject: Re: [MMUSIC] Bundle, TURN and Legacy Interop
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Hi,

Nothing prevents you from only sending host candidates in the first offer, of you want to do.

Regards,

Christer



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-----Original Message-----
From: Hutton, Andrew [andrew.hutton@siemens-enterprise.com]
To: mmusic@ietf.org [mmusic@ietf.org]
Subject: [MMUSIC] Bundle, TURN and Legacy Interop
Hi,

It seems that one of the motivations of the current bundle-03 proposal is that the first offer is compatible with a legacy device and that a second offer is required for bundle (See http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/86/slides/slides-86-mmusic-9.pdf).

One issue that I see is that if TURN is being used there could be a significant overhead in creating the first offer is multiple TURN allocations are needed for each m-line which will all then have to be released if bundle is used.

I am not sure if there is a way to avoid this other but the draft should I think mention this issue.

Regards
Andy
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