Re: [MMUSIC] 4572 moving forward

Flemming Andreasen <fandreas@cisco.com> Thu, 03 November 2016 01:38 UTC

Return-Path: <fandreas@cisco.com>
X-Original-To: mmusic@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: mmusic@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BC5A129577 for <mmusic@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 2 Nov 2016 18:38:36 -0700 (PDT)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -16.019
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-16.019 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-1.497, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, USER_IN_DEF_DKIM_WL=-7.5] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no
Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=cisco.com
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id RCACRdHjSU-B for <mmusic@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 2 Nov 2016 18:38:35 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from alln-iport-1.cisco.com (alln-iport-1.cisco.com [173.37.142.88]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-SEED-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D925C129576 for <mmusic@ietf.org>; Wed, 2 Nov 2016 18:38:34 -0700 (PDT)
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=@cisco.com; l=3090; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1478137114; x=1479346714; h=subject:to:references:from:message-id:date:mime-version: in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=0kg8QHYdbDpEiCqRBX5LDbTRuBnHMBa8smjDMRkejSo=; b=FPIBcVIgECjiyP5CezRXzApq59gLrJ0bwSsTr3jr3l1TiWr3UfdNTgHv ZvTYisKVRDtwndAfxr1a+fZ+7EXdyNdfcI2hbaSLYoBg+Acmu7X8ceERK t+Ke4SaFzph0HmzckFleoUlqV/fxkOrk8n0BEPrIyvKf7qKz+IqiGBOEY c=;
X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true
X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: A0BnAQAzlBpY/5JdJa1dDgsBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQcBAQEBAYMsAQEBAQEfWAMnUo03lwCUR4IIHQuFMEoCgho/FAECAQEBAQEBAWIohGEBAQEDAQEBAS8BBTYQCwsOCicHJx8RBgEMBgIBAReIMwgOuhYBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBGQWGPYF9CIJQhBkRAYV8AQSaHYYzigeBboRvgxgjhXGHJIV0hAQeNmeEXFciNIYmgiwBAQE
X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.31,436,1473120000"; d="scan'208";a="343608158"
Received: from rcdn-core-10.cisco.com ([173.37.93.146]) by alln-iport-1.cisco.com with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384; 03 Nov 2016 01:38:34 +0000
Received: from [10.98.149.196] (bxb-fandreas-8813.cisco.com [10.98.149.196]) by rcdn-core-10.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id uA31cX94013047; Thu, 3 Nov 2016 01:38:33 GMT
To: Paul Kyzivat <pkyzivat@alum.mit.edu>, mmusic@ietf.org
References: <D7470941-FF03-44E4-A23B-BCD81060C822@iii.ca> <CABcZeBPvxSEV6VhdSJmRFbpq4W8LXC0aNncrtcyqjc++=n_VhQ@mail.gmail.com> <30ecd454-9e29-fe83-53c6-9be8eccf8a4b@cisco.com> <e024ef31-8f9c-ca58-32a6-ed76087eaeea@alum.mit.edu>
From: Flemming Andreasen <fandreas@cisco.com>
Message-ID: <6d7f90ff-1439-1e53-f70d-659286b1a651@cisco.com>
Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2016 21:38:33 -0400
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.4.0
MIME-Version: 1.0
In-Reply-To: <e024ef31-8f9c-ca58-32a6-ed76087eaeea@alum.mit.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"; format="flowed"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Archived-At: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/mmusic/DS95Cn1a-qZ8m8sgfESndBkSv0Q>
Subject: Re: [MMUSIC] 4572 moving forward
X-BeenThere: mmusic@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17
Precedence: list
List-Id: Multiparty Multimedia Session Control Working Group <mmusic.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/mmusic>, <mailto:mmusic-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/mmusic/>
List-Post: <mailto:mmusic@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:mmusic-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mmusic>, <mailto:mmusic-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2016 01:38:36 -0000


On 11/2/16 7:07 PM, Paul Kyzivat wrote:
> On 11/2/16 5:03 PM, Flemming Andreasen wrote:
>> Thanks for all the replies and everybody's willingness to find a
>> solution that everybody can live with.
>>
>> I believe we have agreement from all the major stakeholders to move
>> forward with the proposal below - if anybody agrees with that direction,
>> now would be the time to speak up.
>
> Yes, I agree. (I think you probably meant to say "disagree" above.)
>
Indeed :-)

Thanks Paul

-- Flemming

>     Thanks,
>     Paul
>
>> Absent any further input on this, we
>> will declare this as the new consensus on how to proceed.
>>
>> It also does not sound like we need the call we had tentatively
>> scheduled for Friday - please let us know if you disagree.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> -- Flemming (with chair hat on)
>>
>>
>>
>> On 11/2/16 4:43 PM, Eric Rescorla wrote:
>>> This seems satisfactory to me in principle. I haven't read the drafts,
>>> but I will if we decide that that's the way forward.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 4:52 PM, Cullen Jennings <fluffy@iii.ca
>>> <mailto:fluffy@iii.ca>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>     So Martin and I talked today about how to move forward on this. We
>>>     think that we have a proposal that meets everyones requirements
>>>     (you will groan when you hear but just ask yourself if you can
>>>     live with it vs is it your favorite because we think everyone
>>>     could live with this)
>>>
>>>     We discussed two paths 1) split to two drafts, one with update for
>>>     multiple fingerprints and separate extension that adds sha256. 2)
>>>     just obsolete 4572 with new RFC. Martin prefers the obsolete path
>>>     and I can live with that so that’s our proposal. To make this
>>>     happen quickly, I converted 4572 to markdown and you can find it
>>>     in the master branch at https://github.com/fluffy/4572bis
>>>     <https://github.com/fluffy/4572bis> and took the changes from
>>>     Christer's draft and turned them in to a PR for bis draft. If you
>>>     like to review on GitHub, you can check out PR at
>>>     https://github.com/fluffy/4572bis/pull/1/files
>>>     <https://github.com/fluffy/4572bis/pull/1/files> If you just want
>>>     to see what the final draft would look like, it is attached to
>>>     this email.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>     _______________________________________________
>>>     mmusic mailing list
>>>     mmusic@ietf.org <mailto:mmusic@ietf.org>
>>>     https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mmusic
>>>     <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mmusic>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> mmusic mailing list
>>> mmusic@ietf.org
>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mmusic
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> mmusic mailing list
>> mmusic@ietf.org
>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mmusic
>>
>
> _______________________________________________
> mmusic mailing list
> mmusic@ietf.org
> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mmusic
> .
>