Re: [MMUSIC] [Ice] ICE WG Charter version 2 (Proposed changes)
Ari Keränen <ari.keranen@ericsson.com> Fri, 25 September 2015 16:05 UTC
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From: Ari Keränen <ari.keranen@ericsson.com>
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Subject: Re: [MMUSIC] [Ice] ICE WG Charter version 2 (Proposed changes)
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On 25/09/15 12:18, Pal Martinsen (palmarti) wrote: > Hi, > > Based on mailing-list discussions i propose the following changes: > (A pull request can be found at: https://github.com/petithug/icewg/pull/5) This works for me. I added couple of editorial comments in the github pull request. Cheers, Ari > - Merge section 1 and 3. Moved former 2 to 1. > Better introduction to what ICE is and having all the history in the > same section. The intended effect of the edit is to emphasise the > versatility of ICE and maybe attract more “network” people to attend > join the wg. > > - Rewrote the start of the goal section to pass strict parsers. > “The goal of the ICE Working Group is to consolidate the various > initiatives to update and improve ICE, and to help ensure suitability > and consistency in the environments ICE operates in.” > > I wanted to remove webRTC from the sentence. If WG FOO comes with the > same amount of positive energy to help improve ICE I think it would > deserve to get the same amount of attention. > > > The charter would then look like: > > Charter for Working Group > > Interactive Connectivity Establishment (ICE) is at the same time a NAT > traversal technique, a multihomed address selection technique, and a > dual stack address selection technique that works by including a > multiplicity of IP addresses and ports in both the request and response > messages of a connectivity establishment transaction. It makes no > assumptions regarding network topology on the local or remote side. > > Interactive Connectivity Establishment was published as RFC 5245 in > April 2010. Until recently the protocol had seen rather limited > deployment. This situation has changed drastically as ICE is mandatory > to implement > in WebRTC, a set of technologies developed at the IETF and W3C to > standardize Real Time Communication on the Web. ICE was originally > defined for the Offer-Answer (RFC 3264) protocol used by SIP (RFC 3261). > Later XMPP (XEP-0176), RTSP (draft-ietf-mmusic-rtsp-nat), RTCWeb > (draft-ietf-rtcweb-jsep) and other realtime media establishment protocol > have used the protocol. ICE is also used by non-realtime media > protocols, like HIP (RFC 5770) and RELOAD (RFC 6940). > > The goal of the ICE Working Group is to consolidate the various > initiatives to update and improve ICE, and to help ensure suitability > and consistency in the environments ICE operates in. Current work in > this area includes an updated version of the ICE RFC (ICEbis), Trickle > ICE and dualstack/multihomed fairness. It is worth noticing that this > work will make ICE more flexible, robust and more suitable for changing > mobile environments without major changes to the original ICE RFC. The > ICE workgroup will consider new work items that follow this pattern. > > ICE is an application controlled protocol that leverages a set of > network defined protocols. The STUN (RFC 5389), TURN (RFC 5766) and > related protocol work done in the TRAM working group must be closely > synchronized with the work in this working group. To avoid > interoperability issues and unwanted behavior it is desired to increase > the interaction with other working groups dealing with network protocols > closer to the wire. Example of such work may be, but not limited to; > issues regarding multi-homing, multi subnet and prefixes, QoS, transport > selection and congestion control. From the application side, the users > of ICE, there is a need to make sure what is specified is actually > usable. Getting input from the application working groups will be > helpful (RTCWEB, HIP, MMUSIC, P2PSIP, PPSP). > > > .-. > Pål-Erik > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Ice mailing list > Ice@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ice >
- [MMUSIC] ICE WG Charter version 2 (Proposed chang… Pal Martinsen (palmarti)
- Re: [MMUSIC] [Ice] ICE WG Charter version 2 (Prop… Ari Keränen
- Re: [MMUSIC] [Ice] ICE WG Charter version 2 (Prop… Ben Campbell
- Re: [MMUSIC] [Ice] ICE WG Charter version 2 (Prop… Ben Campbell
- Re: [MMUSIC] [Ice] ICE WG Charter version 2 (Prop… Marc Petit-Huguenin
- Re: [MMUSIC] [Ice] ICE WG Charter version 2 (Prop… Harald Alvestrand