Re: [MMUSIC] FW: I-D Action: draft-schwarz-sdp-for-gw-01.txt

"Schwarz, Albrecht (Albrecht)" <albrecht.schwarz@alcatel-lucent.com> Fri, 11 April 2014 07:45 UTC

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From: "Schwarz, Albrecht (Albrecht)" <albrecht.schwarz@alcatel-lucent.com>
To: Christian Groves <Christian.Groves@nteczone.com>, "mmusic@ietf.org" <mmusic@ietf.org>
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Hello Christian,
thanks for review and comments.
Agree to all enhancement proposals.
Good catch concerning RFC 4572.
There should be an update -02 available today.
Regards,
Albrecht

-----Original Message-----
From: mmusic [mailto:mmusic-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Christian Groves
Sent: Freitag, 4. April 2014 03:43
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Subject: Re: [MMUSIC] FW: I-D Action: draft-schwarz-sdp-for-gw-01.txt

Hello Albrecht,

Thanks for submitting the draft. I support the addition of the extra <proto> codepoints for scenarios where a gateway performs application agnostic inter working. In general the background to H.248/Megaco usage of SDP is good but I'm not sure if the reasons for the new codepoints are documented sufficiently in the draft.

Some specific comments below:
Clause 1.4 Scope: I propose to word this slightly differently to indicate the scope is the collection of SDP codepoints for GCPs in order to identify additional ones that REQUIRE registration with IANA.

Clause 4: There appears to be some duplication in the headings, i.e. 4 and 4.5. Perhaps also "<proto> element" needs to be removed from the title of heading 4 as clause 4.4 covers the <type> element?

Clause 4.1 Purpose, Last Para: To me this is the reason for the entire draft. The draft has cataloged how SDP is used by GCPs(H.248/Megaco) however hasn't really gone into much depth on why the additional codepoints are needed. Perhaps a paragraph for each additional codepoint could be added indicating where it is used/needed?

Clause 4.4: I think the draft could indicate that H.248 uses the <attrtype> values as defined on the IANA registry and no additional IANA registrations are required.

Clause 5.1: I think it would be good to note that this has already been registered with IANA.

Clause 7.1: TCP/TLS is already registered. See RFC4572 clause 4. However I'm not sure that in the case of agnostic interworking that the MUST indicated in that clause (/An 'm' line that specifies 'TCP/TLS' MUST further qualify the protocol using a fmt identifier to indicate the application being run over TLS./) applies.

I've also noticed some other minor editorial issues that i'll forward to you off-line.


Regards, Christian

On 27/03/2014 8:48 PM, Schwarz, Albrecht (Albrecht) wrote:
> fyi, this is a spin off activity from
> 	draft-ietf-mmusic-udptl-dtls
> in order to define additional codepoints as required for DTLS security session termination (so called end-to-access edge security mode) and DTLS transparent forwarding (e.g. as part of end-to-end security mode) in middleboxes.
> -Albrecht
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>          Title           : SDP codepoints for gateway control
>          Author          : Albrecht Schwarz
> 	Filename        : draft-schwarz-sdp-for-gw-01.txt
> 	Pages           : 12
> 	Date            : 2014-03-27
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> Abstract:
>     SDP is used in many signalling protocols at call control level (such
>     as SAP, SIP, BICC), bearer control level (such as RTSP, IPBCP) and
>     gateway control level (such as H.248/MEGACO, MGCP). Scope of this RFC
>     is related to gateway control specific SDP usage. Gateway control
>     protocols do usually NOT define and introduce any new SDP parameters,
>     however, gateway control protocols need specific SDP parameter values
>     in addition to SDP usage at call or bearer control level. Such SDP
>     codepoints are collected by this RFC with the purpose of registration
>     with IANA.
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