Re: [MMUSIC] SDP grouping in a new offer
Christer Holmberg <christer.holmberg@ericsson.com> Thu, 05 July 2012 16:16 UTC
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From: Christer Holmberg <christer.holmberg@ericsson.com>
To: "Muthu Arul Mozhi Perumal (mperumal)" <mperumal@cisco.com>, mmusic <mmusic@ietf.org>
Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2012 18:15:01 +0200
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Subject: Re: [MMUSIC] SDP grouping in a new offer
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Hi, In my opinion the grouping framework does not change the at-least-N-m=-lines rule. ...which is probably why 5888 doesn't mention it. Regards, Christer ________________________________ From: mmusic-bounces@ietf.org [mmusic-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Muthu Arul Mozhi Perumal (mperumal) [mperumal@cisco.com] Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2012 2:47 PM To: mmusic Cc: Raghavendra S (raghs); Toleti Danayya Naidu (naidud); Dinesh V (dinv) Subject: [MMUSIC] SDP grouping in a new offer Experts, RFC3264 states that: If an SDP is offered, which is different from the previous SDP, the new SDP MUST have a matching media stream for each media stream in the previous SDP. In other words, if the previous SDP had N "m=" lines, the new SDP MUST have at least N "m=" lines. The i-th media stream in the previous SDP, counting from the top, matches the i-th media stream in the new SDP, counting from the top. This matching is necessary in order for the answerer to determine which stream in the new SDP corresponds to a stream in the previous SDP. Because of these requirements, the number of "m=" lines in a stream never decreases, but either stays the same or increases. Deleted media streams from a previous SDP MUST NOT be removed in a new SDP; however, attributes for these streams need not be present. >From section 9.1 of RFC5888, it seems the same is applicable with SDP grouping, but is not explicit. Should there be matching m-lines in the new offer even with SDP grouping? Does SDP grouping change anything w.r.t to the above statements in RFC3264? thanks, Muthu
- [MMUSIC] SDP grouping in a new offer Muthu Arul Mozhi Perumal (mperumal)
- Re: [MMUSIC] SDP grouping in a new offer Christer Holmberg
- Re: [MMUSIC] SDP grouping in a new offer Muthu Arul Mozhi Perumal (mperumal)
- Re: [MMUSIC] SDP grouping in a new offer Christer Holmberg