Re: [MMUSIC] WGLC for draft-ietf-mmusic-data-channel-sdpneg

Christian Groves <Christian.Groves@nteczone.com> Wed, 09 March 2016 23:18 UTC

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Subject: Re: [MMUSIC] WGLC for draft-ietf-mmusic-data-channel-sdpneg
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Hello Paul, all,

On 10/03/2016 5:55 AM, Paul Kyzivat wrote:
> In my opinion we should start out assuming that the existing attribute 
> registries are consolidated into one, with an extra column, as has 
> been planned.
>
> Then we consider how to build on that.
>
> My thought is that "dcsa" simply becomes another context, alongside 
> "session", "media", and "source". A given attribute could be valid in 
> any combination of those.

> And then the reference section of that entry should get a reference to 
> every document that pertains to that attribute.
[CNG] I'm happy to go with that suggestion.

>
> That does leave the issue Juergen raises: you might need to read a 
> bunch of documents to find which ones pertain to usage in dcsa, and to 
> a particular subprotocol.
[CNG] An implementor should read these documents anyway if they're going 
to implement a sub-protocol.
>
> We could consider further enhancements to the registry to make that 
> sort of query easier. Or we could just assume it won't be a problem 
> often enough to bother.

Regards, Christian

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