Re: [MMUSIC] Trickle ICE for SIP Questions

Christer Holmberg <christer.holmberg@ericsson.com> Wed, 24 July 2013 20:58 UTC

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From: Christer Holmberg <christer.holmberg@ericsson.com>
To: Emil Ivov <emcho@jitsi.org>, "Cullen Jennings (fluffy)" <fluffy@cisco.com>
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Subject: Re: [MMUSIC] Trickle ICE for SIP Questions
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There is a very nice, easy and lightweight mechanism for cleaning: 199 :)

Regards,

Christer


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-----Original Message-----
From: Emil Ivov [emcho@jitsi.org]
To: Cullen Jennings (fluffy) [fluffy@cisco.com]
CC: Alan Johnston [alan.b.johnston@gmail.com]; MMUSIC IETF WG [mmusic@ietf.org]
Subject: Re: [MMUSIC] Trickle ICE for SIP Questions


On 24.07.13, 21:56, Cullen Jennings (fluffy) wrote:
>
> On Jul 24, 2013, at 12:22 PM, Vijaya Mandava (vimandav) <vimandav@cisco.com> wrote:
>
>> 180 with different to-tag would mean call is forked.
>> If uac side do not support call forking, then we cannot use this 180
>> response to collect trickled candidates.
>
> If it is a UAC, it supports this so I don't see the problem.

One problem is that the UAC could support it to the extent of making it
visible to the user:

   "Your contact is being alerted on these N locations"

And of course there's also the fact that we would be creating several
dialogs per call, that we'd then need to clean and garbage collect.

Why would we want to go there?

Emil

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