Re: [MMUSIC] ICE aggressive nomination problem

Emil Ivov <emcho@jitsi.org> Sun, 03 November 2013 23:40 UTC

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From: Emil Ivov <emcho@jitsi.org>
Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2013 00:40:21 +0100
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Subject: Re: [MMUSIC] ICE aggressive nomination problem
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On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 12:38 AM, Martin Thomson
<martin.thomson@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 3 November 2013 15:33, Emil Ivov <emcho@jitsi.org> wrote:
>> If you do maintain them then you have data.
>
> Well, DTLS heartbeats aren't really data.

Not sure what you mean.