Re: [MMUSIC] I-D Action: draft-ietf-mmusic-media-loopback-19.txt

Kevin Gross <kevin.gross@avanw.com> Sat, 14 July 2012 21:41 UTC

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Subject: Re: [MMUSIC] I-D Action: draft-ietf-mmusic-media-loopback-19.txt
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I am not happy about the coffee change!

Kevin Gross

On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 5:28 AM, Miguel A. Garcia <
Miguel.A.Garcia@ericsson.com> wrote:

> Hi Hadriel:
>
> Thanks a lot for getting this new revision. We are almost done!!!
>
> I hereby invite those who made comments during the WGLC to verify that
> they are satisfied with their resolution. If we don't here any feedback
> within a week (July 20th), we will understand everything is correct, and we
> will proceed to request publication of this draft.
>
> /Miguel
>
>
> On 13/07/2012 7:06, Hadriel Kaplan wrote:
>
>>
>> Howdy,
>> Based on the emails/comments from the WGLC, I have posted a revised
>> media-loopback draft.  I believe this addresses all opened issues, and in
>> general covers the following changes:
>>
>> 1) Feedback from media mime types reviewer on section 13 (now section
>> 14).  Changes based on:
>> http://www.ietf.org/mail-**archive/web/ietf-types/**current/msg01649.html<http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ietf-types/current/msg01649.html>
>>
>> 2) Many editorial corrections from Flemming, based on:
>> http://www.ietf.org/mail-**archive/web/mmusic/current/**msg09295.html<http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/mmusic/current/msg09295.html>
>>
>> 3) Non-contentious comments from Magnus have been addressed, based on:
>> http://www.ietf.org/mail-**archive/web/mmusic/current/**msg09300.html<http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/mmusic/current/msg09300.html>
>>
>> 4) Congestion control issue - it appears "let the loopback source do it"
>> was the rough consensus, so it has been changed. (well... clarified)  The
>> thread started here:
>> http://www.ietf.org/mail-**archive/web/mmusic/current/**msg09305.html<http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/mmusic/current/msg09305.html>
>>
>> 5) Secretly replaced the fine coffee the IETF usually serves, with
>> Folgers Crystals.
>>
>> 6) SRTP is now covered in a small new section.
>>
>> 7) Author list has been reduced to 5 authors.
>>
>> If you are not happy with the changes let me know (or rather let this
>> mailing list know).
>>
>> -hadriel
>>
>>
>> On Jul 13, 2012, at 12:48 AM, <internet-drafts@ietf.org>
>>   <internet-drafts@ietf.org> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts
>>> directories.
>>> This draft is a work item of the Multiparty Multimedia Session Control
>>> Working Group of the IETF.
>>>
>>>         Title           : An Extension to the Session Description
>>> Protocol (SDP) and Real-time Transport Protocol (RTP) for Media Loopback
>>>         Author(s)       : Hadriel Kaplan
>>>                           Kaynam Hedayat
>>>                           Nagarjuna Venna
>>>                           Paul E. Jones
>>>                           Nathan Stratton
>>>         Filename        : draft-ietf-mmusic-media-**loopback-19.txt
>>>         Pages           : 33
>>>         Date            : 2012-07-12
>>>
>>> Abstract:
>>>     The wide deployment of Voice over IP (VoIP), Text and Video over IP
>>>     services has introduced new challenges in managing and maintaining
>>>     real-time voice/text/video quality, reliability, and overall
>>>     performance.  In particular, media delivery is an area that needs
>>>     attention.  One method of meeting these challenges is monitoring
>>>     the media delivery performance by looping media back to the
>>>     transmitter.  This is typically referred to as "active monitoring"
>>>     of services.   Media loopback is especially popular in ensuring the
>>>     quality of transport to the edge of a given VoIP, Real-time Text or
>>>     Video over IP service.  Today in networks that deliver real-time
>>>     media, short of running 'ping' and 'traceroute' to the edge,
>>>     administrators are left without the necessary tools to actively
>>>     monitor, manage, and diagnose quality issues with their service.
>>>     The extension defined herein adds new SDP media types and
>>>     attributes, which enable establishment of media sessions where the
>>>     media is looped back to the transmitter. Such media sessions will
>>>     serve as monitoring and troubleshooting tools by providing the
>>>     means for measurement of more advanced VoIP, Real-time Text and
>>>     Video over IP performance metrics.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
>>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/**doc/draft-ietf-mmusic-media-**loopback<https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-mmusic-media-loopback>
>>>
>>> There's also a htmlized version available at:
>>> http://tools.ietf.org/html/**draft-ietf-mmusic-media-**loopback-19<http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-mmusic-media-loopback-19>
>>>
>>> A diff from previous version is available at:
>>> http://tools.ietf.org/rfcdiff?**url2=draft-ietf-mmusic-media-**
>>> loopback-19<http://tools.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-mmusic-media-loopback-19>
>>>
>>>
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>>> ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-**drafts/<ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/>
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