Re: [MMUSIC] MMUSIC WG June 17th virtual interim agenda

Stefan Håkansson LK <stefan.lk.hakansson@ericsson.com> Sat, 15 June 2013 16:51 UTC

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Subject: Re: [MMUSIC] MMUSIC WG June 17th virtual interim agenda
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> +1
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> On Jun 15, 2013, at 7:11 AM, "Paul Kyzivat" <pkyzivat@alum.mit.edu> wrote:
> 
> > +1
> >
> > On 6/15/13 5:39 AM, Harald Alvestrand wrote:
> >> Not on A vs B, but on the agenda:
> >>
> >> This time allocation is:
> >>
> >> - 20 mins administrativia
> >> - 120 mins presentation
> >> - 40 mins discussion
> >>
> >> I do not think this is a wise allocation. It maximizes the time given
> >> to plan "owners" to present their viewpoints, and minimizes the time
> >> avaliable for people who do not "own a plan" to present a viewpoint.
> >> People who come to the meeting SHOULD have read the drafts
> beforehand.
> >> If not, listening to 60 mins of presentation won't make them
> >> understand the issues.
> >>
> >> I would suggest instead:
> >>
> >> - 10 min administrativia (agenda bash)
> >> - 15 min Plan A presentation
> >> - 15 min Plan A clarification questions
> >> - 15 min Plan B presentation
> >> - 15 min Plan B clarification questions
> >> - 10 min presentaton on "what questions do we need to answer" (by the
> >> chairs)
> >> - 90 min discussion on answering the questions (structured by the
> >> chairs)
> >> - 10 min administrativia (wrapup)
> >>
> >> (and yes, this is enough time that one could fit in a slot for "no plan"
> >> too)
> >>
> >> (I'm HOPING that the draft agenda is intended to show "presentation
> >> and discussion" for each draft, not what the words on the agenda
> >> currently say. But if not, I'm considering whether calling in 2 hours
> >> late is a reasonable option.)
> >>
> >>
> >> On 06/14/2013 08:20 PM, Ari Keränen wrote:
> >>> Hi all,
> >>>
> >>> Given the guidance from the RTCWEB WG chairs that the "no-plan"
> >>> discussion should essentially happen at the RTCWEB WG, the MMUSIC
> >>> interim meeting on June 17th will be focused on Plan A and Plan B.
> >>> The goal of the meeting is to clarify what are the two different
> >>> plans, what are their key differences and merits, and how can we
> >>> select one to move forward with.
> >>>
> >>> Here's the draft agenda:
> >>>
> >>> 7:00 – 7:10 Agenda bash & Note takers
> >>> 7:10 – 8:10 Plan A Presentation
> >>> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-roach-rtcweb-plan-a-00
> >>> (also
> >>> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-roach-rtcweb-glareless-add-00)
> >>> 8:10 – 9:10 Plan B Presentation
> >>>  http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-uberti-rtcweb-plan-00
> >>> 9:10 – 9:50 Discussion on preferred approach
> >>> 9:50 – 10:00 Wrap-Up & Next Steps
> >>>
> >>> Note: All Times are Pacific Daylight Time (PDT)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> The WebEx information for joining the meeting is available here:
> >>> http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/mmusic/current/msg11488.html
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Regards,
> >>> Ari & Flemming (MMUSIC co-chairs)
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