Re: [MMUSIC] MMUSIC WG June 17th virtual interim agenda
Stefan Håkansson LK <stefan.lk.hakansson@ericsson.com> Sat, 15 June 2013 16:51 UTC
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From: Stefan Håkansson LK <stefan.lk.hakansson@ericsson.com>
To: Bernard Aboba <bernard_aboba@hotmail.com>, Paul Kyzivat <pkyzivat@alum.mit.edu>
Thread-Topic: [MMUSIC] MMUSIC WG June 17th virtual interim agenda
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Subject: Re: [MMUSIC] MMUSIC WG June 17th virtual interim agenda
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+1 > > +1 > > On Jun 15, 2013, at 7:11 AM, "Paul Kyzivat" <pkyzivat@alum.mit.edu> wrote: > > > +1 > > > > On 6/15/13 5:39 AM, Harald Alvestrand wrote: > >> Not on A vs B, but on the agenda: > >> > >> This time allocation is: > >> > >> - 20 mins administrativia > >> - 120 mins presentation > >> - 40 mins discussion > >> > >> I do not think this is a wise allocation. It maximizes the time given > >> to plan "owners" to present their viewpoints, and minimizes the time > >> avaliable for people who do not "own a plan" to present a viewpoint. > >> People who come to the meeting SHOULD have read the drafts > beforehand. > >> If not, listening to 60 mins of presentation won't make them > >> understand the issues. > >> > >> I would suggest instead: > >> > >> - 10 min administrativia (agenda bash) > >> - 15 min Plan A presentation > >> - 15 min Plan A clarification questions > >> - 15 min Plan B presentation > >> - 15 min Plan B clarification questions > >> - 10 min presentaton on "what questions do we need to answer" (by the > >> chairs) > >> - 90 min discussion on answering the questions (structured by the > >> chairs) > >> - 10 min administrativia (wrapup) > >> > >> (and yes, this is enough time that one could fit in a slot for "no plan" > >> too) > >> > >> (I'm HOPING that the draft agenda is intended to show "presentation > >> and discussion" for each draft, not what the words on the agenda > >> currently say. But if not, I'm considering whether calling in 2 hours > >> late is a reasonable option.) > >> > >> > >> On 06/14/2013 08:20 PM, Ari Keränen wrote: > >>> Hi all, > >>> > >>> Given the guidance from the RTCWEB WG chairs that the "no-plan" > >>> discussion should essentially happen at the RTCWEB WG, the MMUSIC > >>> interim meeting on June 17th will be focused on Plan A and Plan B. > >>> The goal of the meeting is to clarify what are the two different > >>> plans, what are their key differences and merits, and how can we > >>> select one to move forward with. > >>> > >>> Here's the draft agenda: > >>> > >>> 7:00 – 7:10 Agenda bash & Note takers > >>> 7:10 – 8:10 Plan A Presentation > >>> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-roach-rtcweb-plan-a-00 > >>> (also > >>> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-roach-rtcweb-glareless-add-00) > >>> 8:10 – 9:10 Plan B Presentation > >>> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-uberti-rtcweb-plan-00 > >>> 9:10 – 9:50 Discussion on preferred approach > >>> 9:50 – 10:00 Wrap-Up & Next Steps > >>> > >>> Note: All Times are Pacific Daylight Time (PDT) > >>> > >>> > >>> The WebEx information for joining the meeting is available here: > >>> http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/mmusic/current/msg11488.html > >>> > >>> > >>> Regards, > >>> Ari & Flemming (MMUSIC co-chairs) > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> mmusic mailing list > >>> mmusic@ietf.org > >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mmusic > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> mmusic mailing list > >> mmusic@ietf.org > >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mmusic > > > > _______________________________________________ > > mmusic mailing list > > mmusic@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mmusic > _______________________________________________ > mmusic mailing list > mmusic@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mmusic
- Re: [MMUSIC] MMUSIC WG June 17th virtual interim … Flemming Andreasen
- [MMUSIC] MMUSIC WG June 17th virtual interim agen… Ari Keränen
- Re: [MMUSIC] MMUSIC WG June 17th virtual interim … Emil Ivov
- Re: [MMUSIC] MMUSIC WG June 17th virtual interim … Ari Keränen
- Re: [MMUSIC] MMUSIC WG June 17th virtual interim … Emil Ivov
- Re: [MMUSIC] MMUSIC WG June 17th virtual interim … Mary Barnes
- Re: [MMUSIC] MMUSIC WG June 17th virtual interim … Flemming Andreasen
- Re: [MMUSIC] MMUSIC WG June 17th virtual interim … Flemming Andreasen
- Re: [MMUSIC] MMUSIC WG June 17th virtual interim … Ted Hardie
- Re: [MMUSIC] MMUSIC WG June 17th virtual interim … Emil Ivov
- Re: [MMUSIC] MMUSIC WG June 17th virtual interim … Flemming Andreasen
- Re: [MMUSIC] MMUSIC WG June 17th virtual interim … Emil Ivov
- Re: [MMUSIC] MMUSIC WG June 17th virtual interim … Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [MMUSIC] MMUSIC WG June 17th virtual interim … Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [MMUSIC] MMUSIC WG June 17th virtual interim … Bernard Aboba
- Re: [MMUSIC] MMUSIC WG June 17th virtual interim … Stefan Håkansson LK
- Re: [MMUSIC] MMUSIC WG June 17th virtual interim … Mary Barnes
- Re: [MMUSIC] MMUSIC WG June 17th virtual interim … Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [MMUSIC] MMUSIC WG June 17th virtual interim … Randell Jesup