[MMUSIC] Re: Is that a wrap?
Christer Holmberg <christer.holmberg@ericsson.com> Tue, 13 August 2024 08:14 UTC
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From: Christer Holmberg <christer.holmberg@ericsson.com>
To: Colin Perkins <csp@csperkins.org>, "Murray S. Kucherawy" <superuser@gmail.com>
Thread-Topic: [MMUSIC] Re: Is that a wrap?
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Subject: [MMUSIC] Re: Is that a wrap?
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Hi, Back in the days MMUSIC did the SIP work. As there is currently also very little work in SIPCORE, one option would be to again merge the work into a single WG. After all, it's more or less the same people in both groups, so. That WG could also handle possible future work related to ICE, RTCWEB, etc. I.e., a "communications" WG :) Regards, Christer > -----Original Message----- > From: Colin Perkins <csp@csperkins.org> > Sent: Wednesday, 24 July 2024 0.45 > To: Murray S. Kucherawy <superuser@gmail.com> > Cc: mmusic <mmusic@ietf.org> > Subject: [MMUSIC] Re: Is that a wrap? > > Hi, > > MMUSIC met for the first time > <https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fww > w.ietf.org%2Fproceedings%2F27.pdf&data=05%7C02%7Cchrister.holmberg% > 40ericsson.com%7C9bea1dcfff3b40fd333108dcab60ebb9%7C92e84cebfbfd > 47abbe52080c6b87953f%7C0%7C0%7C638573679989893199%7CUnkno > wn%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1 > haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=0%2BiDnCoo2yq5yqK33 > mWCe5sY3IrozdW%2F%2F5C1IUODjkE%3D&reserved=0> at IETF 27 in > Amsterdam, in July 1993. It’s been, I think, one of the more successful IETF > working groups: SIP, SDP, RTSP, and ICE all came out of MMUSIC. Not a bad > run – congratulations to all involved! > > No objections to closing. > > Colin > > On 23 Jul 2024, at 14:23, Murray S. Kucherawy wrote: > > Colleagues, > > MMUSIC completed all but one of its chartered items some time ago. > (That last one has been abandoned.) While the mailing list has shown itself to > be a useful venue for discussing related work and dealing with RFC errata, I > think the WG itself is done here. > > I propose to close the WG, but leave the list open to continue to act as > that resource. If new work relative to the previous charter appears, we can > recharter and reopen as appropriate. > > Any objections? > > -MSK, ART AD > _______________________________________________ > mmusic mailing list -- mmusic@ietf.org > > To unsubscribe send an email to mmusic-leave@ietf.org > <mailto:mmusic-leave@ietf.org>
- [MMUSIC] Is that a wrap? Murray S. Kucherawy
- [MMUSIC] Re: Is that a wrap? Colin Perkins
- [MMUSIC] Re: Is that a wrap? Christer Holmberg
- [MMUSIC] Re: Is that a wrap? Paul Kyzivat
- [MMUSIC] Re: Is that a wrap? Roman Shpount