Re: [MMUSIC] Opsdir last call review of draft-ietf-mmusic-rfc4566bis-34

Paul Kyzivat <pkyzivat@alum.mit.edu> Wed, 10 April 2019 20:23 UTC

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Please see inline.

On 4/9/19 11:03 PM, wangzitao wrote:
> Hi Paul,
> 
> Please find my comments at [MW].
> 
> B.R.
> -Michael
> 
> -----邮件原件-----
> 发件人: Paul Kyzivat [mailto:pkyzivat@alum.mit.edu]
> 发送时间: 2019年4月10日 1:11
> 收件人: wangzitao <wangzitao@huawei.com>; ops-dir@ietf.org
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> 主题: Re: [MMUSIC] Opsdir last call review of draft-ietf-mmusic-rfc4566bis-34
> 
> Thank you for the comments. I have some questions:
> 
> On 4/8/19 2:37 AM, Zitao Wang via Datatracker wrote:
>> Reviewer: Zitao Wang
>> Review result: Has Issues
>>
>> Summary:    This memo defines the Session Description Protocol (SDP).  SDP is
>> intended for describing multimedia sessions for the purposes of
>> session announcement, session invitation, and other forms of
>> multimedia session initiation.  This document obsoletes RFC 4566. I
>> think the document make sense and is written very clear, except some small nits:
> 
> 
>> # In Section 5, there are
>> several terms that miss references, such as "US-ASCII subset of
>> UTF-8",  "ASN.1 or XDR", etc.
> 
> There is already a reference to the definition of UTF-8 [RFC3629] in section 4.5. Do you think the reference needs to be included with every use? The US-ASCII subset of UTF-8 is also defined in RFC3629, so I am inclined to use the same reference for that. There are also a couple of uses of US-ASCII without mention of UTF-8. I'm inclined to change those to "the US-ASCII subset of UTF-8".

I changed the naked uses of US-ASCII to reference the US-ASCII subset of 
UTF-8. I also added another reference to RFC3629 to the *first* use of 
"US-ASCII subset of UTF-8". I haven't added references to other places 
with the same usage.

> Regarding ASN.1 and XDR, I can add references if you think it important.
> But their use is very peripheral, and it isn't necessary to know what they are to read the text.
> [MW]: I am OK if it is not commonly used.
> 
> # s/session- specific/session-specific/
> 
> Regarding "session- specific" vs. "session-specific":
> 
> The context for this is:
> 
> "Attribute scopes in addition to media- and session- specific may also..."
> 
> The space was intentional so that there are equivalent constructions for "media" and "session". The intent is as a shorthand for:
> 
> "Attribute scopes in addition to media-specific and session-specific may also..."
> 
> To avoid confusion I think I'll just change to the latter.
> [MW]: I agree.

Done.

> # Suggest to add tags on
>> "overview optional items" to identified now-obsolete items, such as
>> "a=cat", "a=keywds", "k=".
> 
> I'm not clear what you want me to do.
> 
> I guess you are suggesting adding something to the first figure in section 5.
> [MW]: Yes, IMO, adding some tag/description to the figure is better.
> 
> I don't see how that would be possible for a=cat and a=keywds, since the figure doesn't mention individual attributes.
> [MW]: Agree. For a=cat and a=keywds, it is difficult to show on the figure.
> 
> While it is possible to add something for k=, IMO it is better to leave that level of detail to the complete description in section 5.12.
> [MW]: Maybe it can be updated as following:
> 
>        Before :
>         k=* (encryption key)
>        After:
>         k=* (encryption key, this line is obsoleted)

I changed these to

           k=* (obsolete)

I have these changes in my working copy for inclusion the next time I 
submit a revision.

	Thanks,
	Paul