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Re: [MMUSIC] Stephen Farrell's Discuss on draft-ietf-mmusic-4572-update-12: (with DISCUSS)

Christer Holmberg <christer.holmberg@ericsson.com> Wed, 01 February 2017 08:44 UTC

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From: Christer Holmberg <christer.holmberg@ericsson.com>
To: Stephen Farrell <stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie>, Eric Rescorla <ekr@rtfm.com>
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Subject: Re: [MMUSIC] Stephen Farrell's Discuss on draft-ietf-mmusic-4572-update-12: (with DISCUSS)
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Hi Stephen,

Are you happy with the responses you have received?

Regards,

Christer


On 01/02/17 10:09, "Stephen Farrell" <stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie> wrote:

>
>
>On 01/02/17 07:18, Eric Rescorla wrote:
>> On Tue, Jan 31, 2017 at 5:08 PM, Stephen Farrell
>><stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Stephen Farrell has entered the following ballot position for
>>> draft-ietf-mmusic-4572-update-12: Discuss
>>>
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>>>
>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> DISCUSS:
>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>>
>>> I've two (or 4 depending how you count:-) things
>>> I'd like to check here. Should be pretty easy to
>>> handle.
>>>
>>> (1) section 5: I'm wondering if we have the right
>>> set of hash functions here. Deprecating md2 and md5
>>> is great, but I have a bunch of questions about the
>>> others:
>>>
>>> (1.1) why not also say that sha-1 MUST NOT be used
>>> for new things (or similar)?
>>>
>>> (1.2) do you really need sha-224 and 384? I think
>>> nobody uses those at all.
>>>
>> 
>> It's certainly not correct that nobody uses SHA-384.
>> 
>> In fact, for TLS 1.3, you can't sign anything with P-384 without using
>> SHA-384.
>
>Fair enough. I guess some p384 will be seen in the web just
>because it'll be seen as longer/stronger with tls1.3.
>
>S
>
>> 
>> -Ekr
>> 
>> 
>>> (1.3) I'm a bit surprised you didn't add sha3 (and
>>> maybe remove sha-512 if that's not needed) Even if
>>> you don't encourage use of sha3, it might be good
>>> to include it in the abnf now in case it gets
>>> popular.
>>>
>>> (2) Wouldn't it be a good plan to say that TLS
>>> as-used MUST conform to BCP195? If not, why not?
>>>
>>>
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