Re: [MMUSIC] Reference update from 4566 to 4566bis?
Ted Hardie <ted.ietf@gmail.com> Tue, 05 May 2020 16:09 UTC
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From: Ted Hardie <ted.ietf@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 05 May 2020 09:09:17 -0700
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Subject: Re: [MMUSIC] Reference update from 4566 to 4566bis?
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On Tue, May 5, 2020 at 9:07 AM Christer Holmberg < christer.holmberg@ericsson.com> wrote: > Hi Ted, > > > > All the drafts I listed are in cluster 238, so it is going to take some > time before they got published. > > > > And, we will anyway have a mix of references in cluster 238, because some > of the drafts that were recently finalized do reference 4566bis. > > > > Having said that, I will ask the RFC editor to revert the change before > people have a chance to give an opinion. > > > Thank you very much, Ted > Regards, > > > > Christer > > > > *From: *Ted Hardie <ted.ietf@gmail.com> > *Date: *Tuesday, 5 May 2020 at 18.55 > *To: *Christer Holmberg <christer.holmberg@ericsson.com> > *Cc: *Flemming Andreasen <fandreas@cisco.com>, "mmusic@ietf.org" < > mmusic@ietf.org>, bfcpbis <bfcpbis-bounces@ietf.org>, " > mmusic-chairs@ietf.org" <mmusic-chairs@ietf.org>, Suhas Nandakumar < > snandaku@cisco.com>, "pkyzivat@alum.mit.edu" <pkyzivat@alum.mit.edu>, " > bfcpbis-chairs@ietf.org" <bfcpbis-chairs@ietf.org> > *Subject: *Re: [MMUSIC] Reference update from 4566 to 4566bis? > > > > This appears to have crossed my message in the air. I respectfully > request that you revert this request to the RFC editors, on the basis I > gave in my mail. If you don't do that, I'm afraid I will, and we will have > a mess. > > > > Please also recall that time zones are a thing, and that some of the > people you wanted to review this just started their day a small amount of > time ago; generally speaking, less than a day's review for a suggested > change to this cluster is not reasonable. > > > > regards, > > > > Ted > > > > On Tue, May 5, 2020 at 8:51 AM Christer Holmberg <christer.holmberg= > 40ericsson.com@dmarc.ietf.org <40ericsson.com@dmarc.ietf..org>> wrote: > > Hi, > > > > >Makes sense (as long as none of those references were explicitly to 4566 > rather than 4566bis). > > Sure. > > But, at least in the drafts listed below, I did not find anything that > would have been 4566-specific, so I have asked the RFC editor to update the > references. > > I don’t think we should publish RFCs with references to specifications > that are obsoleted from day one… > > Regards, > > Christer > > > > -- Flemming (as individual) > > On 5/5/20 4:34 AM, Christer Holmberg wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Some of the drafts in Cluster 238 that reference RFC 4566, while other > reference draft-4566bis- > > > > Since draft-4566bis is also part of Cluster 238, and is in the RFC > editor’s queue, should we update the references to draft-4566bis? > > > > The change would be done **at least** to the following drafts (I will > only check the ones I author/co-author): > > > > MMUSIC WG: > > > > draft-ietf-mmusic-dtls-sdp > > draft-ietf-mmusic-sdp-bundle-negotiation > > draft-ietf-mmusic-sctp-sdp > > > > BFCPbis: > > > > draft-ietf-bfcpbis-rfc4583bis-27 > > > > One of the reason many drafts do not reference 4566bis is because the > drafts were going to be finalized long before 4566bis. But, as that is now > not the case…. > > > > draft-ietf-mmusic-mux-attributes references both 4566 (normative) and > 4566bis (informative). In my opinion we could make 4566bis normative there, > but I’d like to hear what Suhas thinks. > > > > Regards, > > > > Christer > > > > _______________________________________________ > > mmusic mailing list > > mmusic@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mmusic > > > > _______________________________________________ > mmusic mailing list > mmusic@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mmusic > >
- [MMUSIC] Reference update from 4566 to 4566bis? Christer Holmberg
- Re: [MMUSIC] Reference update from 4566 to 4566bi… Flemming Andreasen
- Re: [MMUSIC] Reference update from 4566 to 4566bi… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [MMUSIC] Reference update from 4566 to 4566bi… Ted Hardie
- Re: [MMUSIC] Reference update from 4566 to 4566bi… Ted Hardie
- Re: [MMUSIC] Reference update from 4566 to 4566bi… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [MMUSIC] Reference update from 4566 to 4566bi… Ted Hardie
- Re: [MMUSIC] Reference update from 4566 to 4566bi… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [MMUSIC] Reference update from 4566 to 4566bi… Ted Hardie
- Re: [MMUSIC] Reference update from 4566 to 4566bi… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [MMUSIC] Reference update from 4566 to 4566bi… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [MMUSIC] Reference update from 4566 to 4566bi… Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [MMUSIC] Reference update from 4566 to 4566bi… Paul Kyzivat