Re: [MMUSIC] Alexey Melnikov's Discuss on draft-ietf-mmusic-ice-sip-sdp-38: (with DISCUSS)

"Alexey Melnikov" <aamelnikov@fastmail.fm> Mon, 12 August 2019 21:50 UTC

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Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2019 14:11:31 +0100
From: Alexey Melnikov <aamelnikov@fastmail.fm>
To: Christer Holmberg <christer.holmberg@ericsson.com>, The IESG <iesg@ietf.org>
Cc: "draft-ietf-mmusic-ice-sip-sdp@ietf.org" <draft-ietf-mmusic-ice-sip-sdp@ietf.org>, "mmusic-chairs@ietf.org" <mmusic-chairs@ietf.org>, Flemming Andreasen <fandreas@cisco.com>, "mmusic@ietf.org" <mmusic@ietf.org>
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Subject: Re: [MMUSIC] Alexey Melnikov's Discuss on draft-ietf-mmusic-ice-sip-sdp-38: (with DISCUSS)
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Hi Christer,

On Sun, Aug 11, 2019, at 10:34 AM, Christer Holmberg wrote:
>     ---
>     
>     >> 2) In 10.2:
>     >>
>     >> You removed the following text:
>     >>
>     >>   o  Name, Email, and Address of a contact person for the 
> registration
>     >>
>     >>   o  Organization or individuals having the change control
>     >>
>     >> I think removing (postal) Address is a good thing. However the 
> rest of this is still needed, as IANA uses 
>     >> this information to decide whether a person/organization is 
> allowed to update an existing registry entry. 
>     >> may be closed down. The authors of the RFC may have moved on. etc
>     >>
>     >> So please consider adding it back or explain why this 
> information is not needed for a registry where external 
>     >> organizations can add value (without publishing an RFC).
>     >
>     > The text already says that "Specification Required" applies to 
> new entries.
>     >
>     > I am not aware of another registry where we would define 
> entry-specific rules. 
>     
>     Let me know if you still have issues with this. Maybe I 
> misunderstood your issue :)

Yes, I still have an issue with this change. The document is now lacking information needed for IANA to complete registrations.

When I originally asked about need for "Address", all I wanted was removal of "Address", not removal of the 2 sentences around it.

Thank you,
Alexey