Re: [MMUSIC] NEED WG CONSENSUS: media-loopback is all-or-nothing
Bernard Aboba <bernard_aboba@hotmail.com> Tue, 20 November 2012 20:02 UTC
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Subject: Re: [MMUSIC] NEED WG CONSENSUS: media-loopback is all-or-nothing
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"NO". From: HKaplan@acmepacket.com To: bernard_aboba@hotmail.com CC: pkyzivat@alum.mit.edu; mmusic@ietf.org Subject: Re: [MMUSIC] NEED WG CONSENSUS: media-loopback is all-or-nothing Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2012 19:51:33 +0000 I take this is a "NO" vote? -hadriel On Nov 20, 2012, at 1:56 PM, Bernard Aboba <bernard_aboba@hotmail.com> wrote: To Paul's point, there may be a scenario in which some m lines would be looped back and others would not. For example, what if I want to do a loopback test of audio/video but also want to be able to converse via RTT to discuss the results of the test in progress. In that case the audio and video m lines would be looped back but the text line would not be. > Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2012 13:42:43 -0500 > From: pkyzivat@alum.mit.edu > To: mmusic@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [MMUSIC] NEED WG CONSENSUS: media-loopback is all-or-nothing > > NO > > *Why* should the draft be limited this way if it need not be? > > Thanks, > Paul > > On 11/20/12 1:16 PM, Hadriel Kaplan wrote: > > Howdy, > > during IESG review of the media-loopback draft, a discussion arose regarding the language around indicating media-loopback support per media description (i.e., per m-line), in sections 3.1 and 3.2. > > > > My interpretation/understanding was we were requiring ALL m-lines to indicate media-loopback; in other words it's an all-or-nothing in both the offer+answer, and either every media stream is looped back, or none are. However the text currently doesn't make this clear, and it could be argued either way, with pro's/con's either way too; so I'd like the WG's consensus on whether it should in fact be an all-or-none approach, or not. > > > > Please respond to this email by **Tuesday, December 4th** with a "YES" if the draft should mandate ALL media be looped-back, or "NO" if it should allow a hybrid approach of some streams being looped while others are not. > > > > For reference, the draft is here: > > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-mmusic-media-loopback-24 > > > > -hadriel > > > > _______________________________________________ > > mmusic mailing list > > mmusic@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mmusic > > > > _______________________________________________ > mmusic mailing list > mmusic@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mmusic _______________________________________________ mmusic mailing list mmusic@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mmusic
- [MMUSIC] NEED WG CONSENSUS: media-loopback is all… Hadriel Kaplan
- Re: [MMUSIC] NEED WG CONSENSUS: media-loopback is… Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [MMUSIC] NEED WG CONSENSUS: media-loopback is… Bernard Aboba
- Re: [MMUSIC] NEED WG CONSENSUS: media-loopback is… Hadriel Kaplan
- Re: [MMUSIC] NEED WG CONSENSUS: media-loopback is… Hadriel Kaplan
- Re: [MMUSIC] NEED WG CONSENSUS: media-loopback is… Bernard Aboba
- Re: [MMUSIC] NEED WG CONSENSUS: media-loopback is… Gunnar Hellström
- Re: [MMUSIC] NEED WG CONSENSUS: media-loopback is… Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [MMUSIC] NEED WG CONSENSUS: media-loopback is… Flemming Andreasen
- Re: [MMUSIC] NEED WG CONSENSUS: media-loopback is… Richard L. Barnes
- Re: [MMUSIC] NEED WG CONSENSUS: media-loopback is… Flemming Andreasen
- Re: [MMUSIC] NEED WG CONSENSUS: media-loopback is… Muthu Arul Mozhi Perumal (mperumal)
- Re: [MMUSIC] NEED WG CONSENSUS: media-loopback is… Parthasarathi R
- Re: [MMUSIC] NEED WG CONSENSUS: media-loopback is… Cullen Jennings (fluffy)
- Re: [MMUSIC] NEED WG CONSENSUS: media-loopback is… Hutton, Andrew
- Re: [MMUSIC] NEED WG CONSENSUS: media-loopback is… Enrico Marocco
- Re: [MMUSIC] NEED WG CONSENSUS: media-loopback is… Qin Wu
- Re: [MMUSIC] NEED WG CONSENSUS: media-loopback is… Nikos Leontsinis
- Re: [MMUSIC] NEED WG CONSENSUS: media-loopback is… Gonzalo Camarillo
- Re: [MMUSIC] NEED WG CONSENSUS: media-loopback is… Hadriel Kaplan