[MMUSIC] Telephone-event and multiple clock rates
Adam Roach <adam@nostrum.com> Thu, 23 January 2014 20:18 UTC
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Subject: [MMUSIC] Telephone-event and multiple clock rates
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I've had an interesting issue brought to my attention regarding RFC4473 "telephone-event" handling. Section 2.1 requires that "Named telephone events are carried as part of the audio stream and MUST use the same sequence number and timestamp base as the regular audio channel". On its face, this would imply that offering voice codecs with varying clock rates would result in the need to offer several PTs with telephone-event, varying only in frequency. So, for example, if we were setting up a media session that looked like this m=audio 12346 RTP/AVP 0 97 98 99 a=rtpmap:0 PCMU/8000 a=rtpmap:97 opus/4800 0/2 a=rtpmap:98 AMR-WB/16000 a=rtpmap:99 speex/32000 But want to add telephone-event to it, we would need to do this: m=audio 12346 RTP/AVP 0 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 a=rtpmap:0 PCMU/8000 a=rtpmap:97 opus/48000/2 a=rtpmap:98 AMR-WB/16000 a=rtpmap:99 speex/32000 a=rtpmap:100 telephone-event/8000 a=fmtp:100 0-15 a=rtpmap:101 telephone-event/48000 a=fmtp:101 0-15 a=rtpmap:102 telephone-event/16000 a=fmtp:102 0-15 a=rtpmap:103 telephone-event/32000 a=fmtp:103 0-15 Rather than this: m=audio 12346 RTP/AVP 0 97 98 99 100 a=rtpmap:0 PCMU/8000 a=rtpmap:0 PCMA/8000 a=rtpmap:97 opus/48000/2 a=rtpmap:98 AMR-WB/16000 a=rtpmap:99 speex/32000 a=rtpmap:100 telephone-event/8000 a=fmtp:100 0-15 And then it would be incumbent on the remote end to ensure that they use the *correct* DTMF PT to match the codec that they're using for speech. This all seems like patent nonsense, and it burns an additional PT for each clock rate. Is that really what was intended by this language in RFC 4733? /a
- Re: [MMUSIC] Telephone-event and multiple clock r… Adam Roach
- Re: [MMUSIC] Telephone-event and multiple clock r… Magnus Westerlund
- [MMUSIC] Telephone-event and multiple clock rates Adam Roach
- Re: [MMUSIC] Telephone-event and multiple clock r… Stach, Thomas
- Re: [MMUSIC] Telephone-event and multiple clock r… Magnus Westerlund
- Re: [MMUSIC] Telephone-event and multiple clock r… Randell Jesup
- Re: [MMUSIC] Telephone-event and multiple clock r… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [MMUSIC] Telephone-event and multiple clock r… Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [MMUSIC] Telephone-event and multiple clock r… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [MMUSIC] Telephone-event and multiple clock r… Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [MMUSIC] Telephone-event and multiple clock r… DRAGE, Keith (Keith)
- Re: [MMUSIC] Telephone-event and multiple clock r… Christer Holmberg