Re: [MMUSIC] WGLC of last set of changes to Bundle (draft-ietf-mmusic-sdp-bundle-negotiation-22)

Christer Holmberg <> Thu, 25 June 2015 05:19 UTC

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Hi Magnus,

Thanks for your comment!

Regarding RTP/RTCP mux, I guess it should be clarified that one uses single address:ports for sending and receiving RTP and RTCP, but that those address:ports don't have to be the same.

I'll think of some wording.



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Subject: Re: [MMUSIC] WGLC of last set of changes to Bundle (draft-ietf-mmusic-sdp-bundle-negotiation-22)


I looked at the changes and wonder if I spotted an inconsistency?
Otherwise things looks good.

In Section 5 text was changed to enable non-symmetric RTP usages.
Resulting in the following text:

    The address:port combination used for sending bundled media
    MAY be the same as the BUNDLE address, used to receive bundled media,
    depending on whether symmetric RTP [RFC4961] is used.

 From 10.3.1:

    If RTP/RTCP multiplexing is enabled, the same address:port
    combination will be used for receiving (and sending) all RTP packets
    and the RTCP packets associated with the BUNDLE group.  Each endpoint
    will send the packets towards the BUNDLE address of the other

This appears to strongly suggest that one should/must use symmetric RTP
when doing RTP/RTCP muxing. However, I find nothing in RFC 5761 that
mandates usage of symmetric RTP with RTP/RTCP Mux, even if it the text
is written with that as an assumption, I find nothing that prevents
non-symmetric sending.

Thus, I wonder if the text in 10.3.1 needs to be updated to avoid this


Magnus Westerlund

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