Re: [MMUSIC] Bundle, TURN and Legacy Interop

"Hutton, Andrew" <andrew.hutton@siemens-enterprise.com> Wed, 13 March 2013 21:00 UTC

Return-Path: <andrew.hutton@siemens-enterprise.com>
X-Original-To: mmusic@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: mmusic@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A0F511E80DC for <mmusic@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 13 Mar 2013 14:00:47 -0700 (PDT)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -2.563
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.563 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.035, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001]
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Tg+Hb2Rhd9g5 for <mmusic@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 13 Mar 2013 14:00:43 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from senmx11-mx.siemens-enterprise.com (senmx11-mx.siemens-enterprise.com [62.134.46.9]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC49711E80D9 for <mmusic@ietf.org>; Wed, 13 Mar 2013 14:00:42 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from MCHP01HTC.global-ad.net (unknown [172.29.42.234]) by senmx11-mx.siemens-enterprise.com (Server) with ESMTP id E1FB61EB8561; Wed, 13 Mar 2013 22:00:41 +0100 (CET)
Received: from MCHP04MSX.global-ad.net ([169.254.1.94]) by MCHP01HTC.global-ad.net ([172.29.42.234]) with mapi id 14.02.0328.009; Wed, 13 Mar 2013 22:00:41 +0100
From: "Hutton, Andrew" <andrew.hutton@siemens-enterprise.com>
To: Christer Holmberg <christer.holmberg@ericsson.com>
Thread-Topic: [MMUSIC] Bundle, TURN and Legacy Interop
Thread-Index: Ac4gJWBA5pPebVuMT3uFsh7F2mnB0f//8m4AgAAedU4=
Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2013 21:00:40 +0000
Message-ID: <4411CF98-016E-4DB1-8709-594312EDB4D1@siemens-enterprise.com>
References: <9F33F40F6F2CD847824537F3C4E37DDF06899CEF@MCHP04MSX.global-ad.net>, <7594FB04B1934943A5C02806D1A2204B126210@ESESSMB209.ericsson.se>
In-Reply-To: <7594FB04B1934943A5C02806D1A2204B126210@ESESSMB209.ericsson.se>
Accept-Language: en-US
Content-Language: en-GB
X-MS-Has-Attach:
X-MS-TNEF-Correlator:
Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_4411CF98016E4DB18709594312EDB4D1siemensenterprisecom_"
MIME-Version: 1.0
Cc: "mmusic_ietf.org" <mmusic@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [MMUSIC] Bundle, TURN and Legacy Interop
X-BeenThere: mmusic@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12
Precedence: list
List-Id: Multiparty Multimedia Session Control Working Group <mmusic.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/mmusic>, <mailto:mmusic-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/mmusic>
List-Post: <mailto:mmusic@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:mmusic-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mmusic>, <mailto:mmusic-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2013 21:00:47 -0000

There is if you have been configured to use TURN and are known to need to use it.

Andy

On 13 Mar 2013, at 16:11, "Christer Holmberg" <christer.holmberg@ericsson.com<mailto:christer.holmberg@ericsson.com>> wrote:

Hi,

Nothing prevents you from only sending host candidates in the first offer, of you want to do.

Regards,

Christer



Sent from Windows using TouchDown (www.nitrodesk.com<http://www.nitrodesk.com>)

-----Original Message-----
From: Hutton, Andrew [andrew.hutton@siemens-enterprise.com<mailto:andrew.hutton@siemens-enterprise.com>]
To: mmusic@ietf.org<mailto:mmusic@ietf.org> [mmusic@ietf.org<mailto:mmusic@ietf.org>]
Subject: [MMUSIC] Bundle, TURN and Legacy Interop
Hi,

It seems that one of the motivations of the current bundle-03 proposal is that the first offer is compatible with a legacy device and that a second offer is required for bundle (See http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/86/slides/slides-86-mmusic-9.pdf).

One issue that I see is that if TURN is being used there could be a significant overhead in creating the first offer is multiple TURN allocations are needed for each m-line which will all then have to be released if bundle is used.

I am not sure if there is a way to avoid this other but the draft should I think mention this issue.

Regards
Andy
_______________________________________________
mmusic mailing list
mmusic@ietf.org<mailto:mmusic@ietf.org>
https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mmusic