Re: [MMUSIC] BUNDLE/SDP : ISSUE#3: Should BUNDLE deal with DECLARATIVE SDP ?

[Suhas Nandakumar <[e-mail]>]

Hi Christer

   My bad, the very introduction is clear about it .

 This specification defines a new SDP Grouping Framework extension,

   "BUNDLE", that can be used with the Session Description Protocol
   (SDP) Offer/Answer mechanism to negotiate the usage of bundled media,
   which refers to the usage of a single 5-tuple for media associated
   with multiple SDP media descriptions ("m=" lines).



Above statement should suffice I believe. I should probably add a
requirement in the Mux Draft saying that the analysis applies only to
Offer/Answer usage of SDP.

If everyone is fine with add an explicit statement in the Mux draft, I
think we can close this issue

Cheers
Suhas


On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 1:12 PM, Christer Holmberg <
[e-mail]> wrote:

>  Hi,
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> I think the BUNDLE spec does say that it is a way to use O/A in order to
> negotiate multiplexing.
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> But, if people don't think it's not clear enough, we can for sure add more
> text :)
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> Regards,
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> Christer
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> *From:* Suhas Nandakumar [[e-mail]]
> *Sent:* Thursday, 31 October 2013 9:56 PM
> *To:* Harald Alvestrand
> *Cc:* Cullen Jennings; Christer Holmberg; mmusic WG
> *Subject:* Re: BUNDLE/SDP : ISSUE#3: Should BUNDLE deal with DECLARATIVE
> SDP ?
>
>   Good point Harald. Thinking of it , I feel this question applies to all
> the declarative usages of SDP attributes in the context of BUNDLE.
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>  From Christer's and your point, I feel the BUNDLE specification should
> state it explicitly that only O/A procedures are supported for this
> version. That way, we handle all the attributes that has declarative
> semantics along with O/A or otherwise.
>
>  please let me know your thoughts.
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>  Thanks
> Suhas
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> On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 12:49 AM, Harald Alvestrand <[e-mail]>wrote:
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>> Could you expand "declaratively" for me here? If it means "stated, not
>> negotiated", this is the same as for many attrs in the draft already. If it
>> means "never used in offer/answer", I agree with Christer.
>> 31. okt. 2013 05:52 skrev "Suhas Nandakumar" <[e-mail]>
>> følgende:
>>
>>  Hello All
>>>
>>>    Magnus raised an important question while analyzing  RFC6064 SDP
>>> attributes related to RTSP SDP attributes for 3GPP.  Since these attributes
>>> are declaratively used, SHOULD BUNDLE be dealing with specifying the
>>> behavior in Non Offer/Answer Scenarios ?
>>>
>>>  If the answer is NO, we can assign category to be NOT IMPACTED for
>>> these attributes,
>>>
>>>  If the answer is YES, i think there needs to be more discussions on
>>> handling this scenario.
>>>
>>>  Please let me know your thoughts.
>>>
>>>
>>>  Cheers
>>> Suhas
>>>
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