Re: [MMUSIC] Merging ICE aggressive and regular nomination (was Re: [tram] Comment on draft-williams-peer-redirect-01: might it not converge?)
Iñaki Baz Castillo <ibc@aliax.net> Sun, 03 August 2014 14:21 UTC
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From: =?UTF-8?Q?I=C3=B1aki_Baz_Castillo?= <ibc@aliax.net>
Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2014 16:20:38 +0200
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Subject: Re: [MMUSIC] Merging ICE aggressive and regular nomination (was Re:
[tram] Comment on draft-williams-peer-redirect-01: might it not converge?)
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2014-08-03 15:43 GMT+02:00 Emil Ivov <emcho@jitsi.org>rg>: > The one that's currently being discussed on this list, where there won't be > an explicit aggressive nomination mode and regular nomination would (really) > allow for media to be exchanged before it completes (which it supposedly > does already although it's a bit unclear on the matter) OK, got it. Just a comment: Regardless how the "new ICE" looks, please don't change the rule "just one DTLS handshake". I say that because in a previous mail it is said that ICE Binding requests may be encapsulated into DTLS HelloClient packets, so danger here: - PeerA is controlling and has two network interfaces. - PeerB has a single interface. - PeerA sends two connectivity checks (so DTLS HelloClient + ICE Binding Request), one from each interface, to the single interface of PeerB. - In that case both ICE Requests are different (different transactionId and so on) so both DTLS HelloClient packets must also be different, and hence we are talking about *two* separate DTLS handshakes, which means that PeerB MUST handle two different DTLS sessions into the same local candidate/interface. If so, the "just one DTLS handshake" rule and the rationale about "ICE is a virtual socket" get violated. Please consider that. -- Iñaki Baz Castillo <ibc@aliax.net>
- [MMUSIC] Merging ICE aggressive and regular nomin… Jonathan Lennox
- Re: [MMUSIC] Merging ICE aggressive and regular n… Martin Thomson
- Re: [MMUSIC] Merging ICE aggressive and regular n… Justin Uberti
- Re: [MMUSIC] Merging ICE aggressive and regular n… Justin Uberti
- Re: [MMUSIC] Merging ICE aggressive and regular n… Jonathan Lennox
- Re: [MMUSIC] Merging ICE aggressive and regular n… Emil Ivov
- Re: [MMUSIC] Merging ICE aggressive and regular n… Martin Thomson
- Re: [MMUSIC] Merging ICE aggressive and regular n… Justin Uberti
- Re: [MMUSIC] Merging ICE aggressive and regular n… Martin Thomson
- Re: [MMUSIC] Merging ICE aggressive and regular n… Justin Uberti
- Re: [MMUSIC] Merging ICE aggressive and regular n… Martin Thomson
- Re: [MMUSIC] Merging ICE aggressive and regular n… Jonathan Lennox
- Re: [MMUSIC] Merging ICE aggressive and regular n… Martin Thomson
- Re: [MMUSIC] Merging ICE aggressive and regular n… Jonathan Lennox
- Re: [MMUSIC] Merging ICE aggressive and regular n… Martin Thomson
- Re: [MMUSIC] Merging ICE aggressive and regular n… Justin Uberti
- Re: [MMUSIC] Merging ICE aggressive and regular n… Justin Uberti
- Re: [MMUSIC] Merging ICE aggressive and regular n… Iñaki Baz Castillo
- Re: [MMUSIC] Merging ICE aggressive and regular n… Iñaki Baz Castillo
- Re: [MMUSIC] Merging ICE aggressive and regular n… Iñaki Baz Castillo
- Re: [MMUSIC] Merging ICE aggressive and regular n… Justin Uberti
- Re: [MMUSIC] Merging ICE aggressive and regular n… Justin Uberti
- Re: [MMUSIC] Merging ICE aggressive and regular n… Emil Ivov
- Re: [MMUSIC] Merging ICE aggressive and regular n… Emil Ivov
- Re: [MMUSIC] Merging ICE aggressive and regular n… Iñaki Baz Castillo
- Re: [MMUSIC] Merging ICE aggressive and regular n… Iñaki Baz Castillo
- Re: [MMUSIC] Merging ICE aggressive and regular n… Iñaki Baz Castillo
- Re: [MMUSIC] Merging ICE aggressive and regular n… Martin Thomson
- Re: [MMUSIC] Merging ICE aggressive and regular n… Iñaki Baz Castillo
- Re: [MMUSIC] Merging ICE aggressive and regular n… Martin Thomson
- Re: [MMUSIC] Merging ICE aggressive and regular n… Justin Uberti
- Re: [MMUSIC] Merging ICE aggressive and regular n… Iñaki Baz Castillo
- Re: [MMUSIC] Merging ICE aggressive and regular n… Iñaki Baz Castillo
- Re: [MMUSIC] Merging ICE aggressive and regular n… Martin Thomson
- Re: [MMUSIC] Merging ICE aggressive and regular n… Justin Uberti
- Re: [MMUSIC] Merging ICE aggressive and regular n… Iñaki Baz Castillo
- Re: [MMUSIC] Merging ICE aggressive and regular n… Emil Ivov
- Re: [MMUSIC] Merging ICE aggressive and regular n… Iñaki Baz Castillo
- Re: [MMUSIC] Merging ICE aggressive and regular n… Emil Ivov
- Re: [MMUSIC] Merging ICE aggressive and regular n… Iñaki Baz Castillo
- Re: [MMUSIC] Merging ICE aggressive and regular n… Martin Thomson
- Re: [MMUSIC] Merging ICE aggressive and regular n… Iñaki Baz Castillo
- Re: [MMUSIC] Merging ICE aggressive and regular n… Iñaki Baz Castillo
- Re: [MMUSIC] Merging ICE aggressive and regular n… Justin Uberti
- Re: [MMUSIC] Merging ICE aggressive and regular n… José Luis Millán
- Re: [MMUSIC] Merging ICE aggressive and regular n… Martin Thomson
- Re: [MMUSIC] Merging ICE aggressive and regular n… Iñaki Baz Castillo
- Re: [MMUSIC] Merging ICE aggressive and regular n… Kevin Dempsey
- Re: [MMUSIC] Merging ICE aggressive and regular n… Iñaki Baz Castillo