RE: [MMUSIC] (no subject)

"Raman, Sundereshwaran (Sundereshwaran)" <ramsun@avaya.com> Sun, 17 August 2003 17:17 UTC

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Thanks for your prompt replies. I thought so too after reading the RFC 3264.
The reason for this question was I came across two vendors who were changing the payload type number when a re-invite was sent out. Heres the scenario:
Session established with 96 as the payload type number for telephone-event.
I send out a RE-INVITE with no SDP in it. The response from the phone contains a different payload type number for the telephone event. Are they not supposed to send the previous agreed upon payload type number?  

Thanks
Sundi

-----Original Message-----
From: Hearty, John [mailto:John.Hearty@Level3.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 2:49 PM
To: Jonathan Rosenberg; Raman, Sundereshwaran (Sundereshwaran)
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Subject: RE: [MMUSIC] (no subject)


The text calls out the special case of disallowing changing the PT in
the case of RTP.  The example was for telephone events.  I suspect you
would risk interop problems if you didn't follow the RTP rule in the
text for telephone events, but technically the example is removing the
96 PT and adding a different PT mapping to telephone events which the
text seems to allow.  The rules are for a particular media stream in the
session.  It may be safer to use a whole new media stream for the new PT
if you really need to do it for some reason.

John Hearty
Level3

> -----Original Message-----
> From: mmusic-admin@ietf.org [mailto:mmusic-admin@ietf.org] On Behalf
Of
> Jonathan Rosenberg
> Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 2:39 PM
> To: Raman, Sundereshwaran (Sundereshwaran)
> Cc: mmusic@ietf.org
> Subject: Re: [MMUSIC] (no subject)
> 
> I believe Section 8.3.2 of RFC 3264 directly answers your question:
> 
> The list of media formats used in the session MAY be changed.  To do
>     this, the offerer creates a new media description, with the list
of
>     media formats in the "m=" line different from the corresponding
media
>     stream in the previous SDP.  This list MAY include new formats,
and
>     MAY remove formats present from the previous SDP.  However, in the
>     case of RTP, the mapping from a particular dynamic payload type
>     number to a particular codec within that media stream MUST NOT
change
>     for the duration of a session.  For example, if A generates an
offer
>     with G.711 assigned to dynamic payload type number 46, payload
type
>     number 46 MUST refer to G.711 from that point forward in any
offers
>     or answers for that media stream within the session.  However, it
is
>     acceptable for multiple payload type numbers to be mapped to the
same
>     codec, so that an updated offer could also use payload type number
72
>     for G.711.
> 
> 
> This is true for the answerer as well. Thus, in each direction, once
> PT number is bound to a codec, that PT number can not be used for a
> different codec.
> 
> -Jonathan R.
> 
> Raman, Sundereshwaran (Sundereshwaran) wrote:
> 
> > I have question related to dynamic payloads. If a session is
estblished
> > with a dynamic payload type number mapped to a particular codec, can
the
> > number change for the same codec in subsequent offers/answers in the
> > same session? e.g. Lets say a session was established with a dynamic
> > payload type number 96 mapped to telephone-event. Now if a new
Re-Invite
> > is sent out, can the response have a different payload type number
for
> > the telephone event?
> >
> > Thanks
> > Sundi
> >
> >
> 
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