Re: [MMUSIC] BUNDLE Weekly Summary: Assumptions

Christer Holmberg <> Fri, 03 May 2013 17:44 UTC

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>> In order to try to close issues on BUNDLE, based on the discussions
>> we’ve had, I intend to update the BUNDLE draft based on the following
>> assumptions:
>> 1.We mandate usage of rtcp-mux when BUNDLE is used.
> Are you going to include the possibility of bundling non-RTP m-lines?
> (Needed if we are to include DTLS/SCTP.)


I guess I should have listed that as a third assumption.

> If so, then of course the use of rtcp-mux only applies to RTP m-lines.


> (Of course, if only one DTLS/SCTP line can be included, a bundle without
> RTP is not very interesting. But it doesn't hurt to make this ready for
> future bundling of other things.)

Agree. My intention is not to mandate a BUNDLE group to contain RTP media.

>> 2.SDP m- lines with a zero port value MUST NOT be put inside a BUNDLE
>> group (not in an offer, nor in an answer). There will be a note
>> indicating that, due to this, the number of m- lines associated with a
>> BUNDLE group may differ between the offer and the associated answer.
>> There will also be a note indicating that this is due to RFC 5888, in
>> case people later start to wonder where the “MUST NOT” comes from.
>> Please indicate if you OBJECT to any of these assumptions.
> Aside from the above comment I have no objections.

And, the zero port value restriction would of course apply to any media type (not only RTP).