Re: [MMUSIC] Possible BUNDLE alternative syntax: explicit m-line for bundled session
Lishitao <lishitao@huawei.com> Fri, 21 September 2012 01:52 UTC
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From: Lishitao <lishitao@huawei.com>
To: Christer Holmberg <christer.holmberg@ericsson.com>, "Ejzak, Richard P (Richard)" <richard.ejzak@alcatel-lucent.com>, "mmusic@ietf.org" <mmusic@ietf.org>
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Subject: Re: [MMUSIC] Possible BUNDLE alternative syntax: explicit m-line for bundled session
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> -----Original Message----- > From: mmusic-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:mmusic-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf > Of Christer Holmberg > Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 3:32 AM > To: Ejzak, Richard P (Richard); mmusic@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [MMUSIC] Possible BUNDLE alternative syntax: explicit m-line for > bundled session > > Hi, > > >>> m=bundle requires significant extensions to the syntax and also a near > >>> doubling in the size of the SDP. It is harder to specify allowed > >>> combinations of codecs and other options that are normally associated > >>> with a single m line. > >> > >> Please give an example. > > > > To specify two types of audio flows with very different characteristics I would > normally have separate media lines with separate codec lists and attributes. > One may require DTMF and the other silence suppression in addition to the > selected (but different) > > codecs. We need to keep this characteristic. We also need a way of > specifying bandwidth per (old) media line, which is already supported using > separate media lines but requires that something new be defined for m=bundle. > What about RTCP > > characteristics? We certainly want to specify them per (old) media line. > > > > I understand that this can be done with m=bundle, but it requires new syntax. > Why bother if we have something that can work? > > I am not sure it requires new syntax, if you e.g. can use the ssrc attribute in > order to map attributes to specific flows. I would suggest that put the m=bundle proposal in a separate new personal draft or in the annex of the existing working draft, and make a comparison for this proposal and the existing proposal. That will make it more clear. For the existing proposal, I believe that people are not totally against, although it has some issues. (the m=bundle proposal also has some issues). Regards shitao
- [MMUSIC] Possible BUNDLE alternative syntax: expl… Jonathan Lennox
- Re: [MMUSIC] Possible BUNDLE alternative syntax: … Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [MMUSIC] Possible BUNDLE alternative syntax: … Christer Holmberg
- Re: [MMUSIC] Possible BUNDLE alternative syntax: … Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [MMUSIC] Possible BUNDLE alternative syntax: … Bernard Aboba
- Re: [MMUSIC] Possible BUNDLE alternative syntax: … Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [MMUSIC] Possible BUNDLE alternative syntax: … Bernard Aboba
- Re: [MMUSIC] Possible BUNDLE alternative syntax: … Christer Holmberg
- Re: [MMUSIC] Possible BUNDLE alternative syntax: … Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [MMUSIC] Possible BUNDLE alternative syntax: … Cullen Jennings (fluffy)
- Re: [MMUSIC] Possible BUNDLE alternative syntax: … Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [MMUSIC] Possible BUNDLE alternative syntax: … Bernard Aboba
- Re: [MMUSIC] Possible BUNDLE alternative syntax: … Christer Holmberg
- Re: [MMUSIC] Possible BUNDLE alternative syntax: … Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [MMUSIC] Possible BUNDLE alternative syntax: … Christer Holmberg
- Re: [MMUSIC] Possible BUNDLE alternative syntax: … Cullen Jennings (fluffy)
- Re: [MMUSIC] Possible BUNDLE alternative syntax: … Cullen Jennings (fluffy)
- Re: [MMUSIC] Possible BUNDLE alternative syntax: … Christer Holmberg
- Re: [MMUSIC] Possible BUNDLE alternative syntax: … Cullen Jennings (fluffy)
- Re: [MMUSIC] Possible BUNDLE alternative syntax: … Christer Holmberg
- Re: [MMUSIC] Possible BUNDLE alternative syntax: … Ejzak, Richard P (Richard)
- Re: [MMUSIC] Possible BUNDLE alternative syntax: … Christer Holmberg
- Re: [MMUSIC] Possible BUNDLE alternative syntax: … Ejzak, Richard P (Richard)
- Re: [MMUSIC] Possible BUNDLE alternative syntax: … Christer Holmberg
- Re: [MMUSIC] Possible BUNDLE alternative syntax: … Lishitao
- Re: [MMUSIC] Possible BUNDLE alternative syntax: … Ejzak, Richard P (Richard)
- Re: [MMUSIC] Possible BUNDLE alternative syntax: … Ejzak, Richard P (Richard)
- Re: [MMUSIC] Possible BUNDLE alternative syntax: … Christer Holmberg
- Re: [MMUSIC] Possible BUNDLE alternative syntax: … Ejzak, Richard P (Richard)
- Re: [MMUSIC] Possible BUNDLE alternative syntax: … Christer Holmberg
- Re: [MMUSIC] Possible BUNDLE alternative syntax: … Ejzak, Richard P (Richard)
- Re: [MMUSIC] Possible BUNDLE alternative syntax: … Christer Holmberg
- Re: [MMUSIC] Possible BUNDLE alternative syntax: … Lishitao
- Re: [MMUSIC] Possible BUNDLE alternative syntax: … Parthasarathi R
- Re: [MMUSIC] Possible BUNDLE alternative syntax: … Christer Holmberg
- Re: [MMUSIC] Possible BUNDLE alternative syntax: … Parthasarathi R
- Re: [MMUSIC] Possible BUNDLE alternative syntax: … Christer Holmberg
- Re: [MMUSIC] Possible BUNDLE alternative syntax: … Jonathan Lennox
- Re: [MMUSIC] Possible BUNDLE alternative syntax: … Christer Holmberg
- Re: [MMUSIC] Possible BUNDLE alternative syntax: … Parthasarathi R
- Re: [MMUSIC] Possible BUNDLE alternative syntax: … Christer Holmberg
- Re: [MMUSIC] Possible BUNDLE alternative syntax: … Cullen Jennings (fluffy)
- Re: [MMUSIC] Possible BUNDLE alternative syntax: … Christer Holmberg