Re: [MMUSIC] [rtcweb] SDP work needed for WebRTC stuff

Bernard Aboba <> Tue, 11 December 2012 05:01 UTC

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Subject: Re: [MMUSIC] [rtcweb] SDP work needed for WebRTC stuff
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I do not think that a single meeting, virtual or actual, will suffice to get
things back on track.  We need a fundamental change of approach. 


The basic problem is that WebRTC work items have been dispersed between a
number of WGs other than RTCWEB.  Within these WGs, WebRTC is only a


As a result, work items such as BUNDLE (which require non-trivial analysis
and discussion) have found themselves a needle in a haystack of other items,
getting a fraction of the attention that they need to move forward.  


While allocating some substantial time at an in-person RTCWEB/MMUSIC interim
can help, for that time to be well spent will require substantial
preparation.  As an example, I could see a virtual AVTEXT interim being
scheduled for mid-January at which Jonathan Lennox's hierarchy draft could
be given substantial time and an MMUSIC virtual interim in the same time
frame which could be devoted to one or two important topics (e.g. BUNDLE,


If that is done, then the issues requiring additional intensive work might
be narrowed to the point where an in-person meeting in early February might
be able to finish some of them off, with others handled another round of
virtual interims two weeks later. 


Bernard "MARTINI was hell - but it only lasted a year" Aboba


On 12/10/2012 8:18 PM, Eric Rescorla wrote:

I'm not expert enough at the RAI WG mechanics to know what's required, so

this requires making this also an MMUSIC interim or a mini-RAI interim,

but if so that's what we should do, even if it means we need to reschedule

or move it.