Re: [MMUSIC] [rtcweb] Draft new: draft-wang-mmusic-encrypted-ice-candidates
Ted Hardie <ted.ietf@gmail.com> Tue, 05 November 2019 19:17 UTC
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From: Ted Hardie <ted.ietf@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2019 11:17:19 -0800
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Subject: Re: [MMUSIC] [rtcweb] Draft new: draft-wang-mmusic-encrypted-ice-candidates
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On Sun, Nov 3, 2019 at 7:36 PM Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net> wrote: > This draft has the effect of defining a new gTLD. That's problematic, and > likely unnecessary. I would encourage you to look into ways to signal > these candidates differently. a=encrypted-candidate might work, for > instance. You might be able to encrypt more data than an IP address in the > process. > > I agree with Martin that the use of a .encrypted pseudo-TLD is not necessary. If you need a special use name, the IAB has signaled willingness to permit registrations under .arpa. I don't personally think this is the best approach, but that tree is the right choice if you conclude a special use name is the way to go. regards, Ted > I also don't see how key management works here. The goal of the draft is > to define a set of entities that you are OK with reading your IP address, > but I don't see any text that addresses the difficulty of a) identifying > the entities in that set, and b) getting those entities the necessary > keys. Those are the really hard problems in this space. > > I don't see how this provides any sort of algorithm agility or ability to > identify the keys that are in use. Maybe trial decryption is acceptable in > this context, but that can get unwieldy fairly rapidly. > > On Sat, Nov 2, 2019, at 07:06, Qingsi Wang wrote: > > Greetings. > > > > This draft > > ( > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-wang-mmusic-encrypted-ice-candidates-00) > proposes a complementary solution to the mDNS candidate detailed in > draft-ietf-rtcweb-mdns-ice-candidates, specifically for managed networks. > IPs of ICE candidates are encrypted via PSK and signaled as pseudo-FQDNs in > this proposal, and it aims to address the connectivity challenge from the > mDNS technique in these managed environments. The current work on this > draft is tracked in https://github.com/tQsW/encrypted-ice-candidates. > > > > Regards, > > Qingsi > > _______________________________________________ > > rtcweb mailing list > > rtcweb@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/rtcweb > > > > _______________________________________________ > rtcweb mailing list > rtcweb@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/rtcweb >
- [MMUSIC] Draft new: draft-wang-mmusic-encrypted-i… Qingsi Wang
- Re: [MMUSIC] [rtcweb] Draft new: draft-wang-mmusi… Martin Thomson
- Re: [MMUSIC] [rtcweb] Draft new: draft-wang-mmusi… Qingsi Wang
- Re: [MMUSIC] [rtcweb] Draft new: draft-wang-mmusi… Ted Hardie
- Re: [MMUSIC] [rtcweb] Draft new: draft-wang-mmusi… Roman Shpount
- Re: [MMUSIC] [rtcweb] Draft new: draft-wang-mmusi… Justin Uberti
- Re: [MMUSIC] [rtcweb] Draft new: draft-wang-mmusi… Martin Thomson
- Re: [MMUSIC] [rtcweb] Draft new: draft-wang-mmusi… Sean DuBois
- Re: [MMUSIC] [rtcweb] Draft new: draft-wang-mmusi… Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [MMUSIC] [rtcweb] Draft new: draft-wang-mmusi… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [MMUSIC] [rtcweb] Draft new: draft-wang-mmusi… Bernard Aboba
- Re: [MMUSIC] [rtcweb] Draft new: draft-wang-mmusi… Roman Shpount
- Re: [MMUSIC] [rtcweb] Draft new: draft-wang-mmusi… Iñaki Baz Castillo
- Re: [MMUSIC] [rtcweb] Draft new: draft-wang-mmusi… Justin Uberti
- Re: [MMUSIC] [rtcweb] Draft new: draft-wang-mmusi… Sean DuBois
- Re: [MMUSIC] [rtcweb] Draft new: draft-wang-mmusi… Sean DuBois
- Re: [MMUSIC] [rtcweb] Draft new: draft-wang-mmusi… Iñaki Baz Castillo
- Re: [MMUSIC] [rtcweb] Draft new: draft-wang-mmusi… Sean DuBois
- Re: [MMUSIC] [rtcweb] Draft new: draft-wang-mmusi… Sean DuBois
- Re: [MMUSIC] [rtcweb] Draft new: draft-wang-mmusi… Justin Uberti
- Re: [MMUSIC] [rtcweb] Draft new: draft-wang-mmusi… Roman Shpount
- Re: [MMUSIC] [rtcweb] Draft new: draft-wang-mmusi… Justin Uberti
- Re: [MMUSIC] [rtcweb] Draft new: draft-wang-mmusi… Harald Alvestrand