Return-Path: X-Original-To: mmusic@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mmusic@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75B3221F8946 for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2012 16:54:46 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.546 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.546 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.300, BAYES_00=-2.599, J_CHICKENPOX_56=0.6, MIME_BASE64_TEXT=1.753, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id FCsSqWKN20FS for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2012 16:54:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from lhrrgout.huawei.com (lhrrgout.huawei.com [194.213.3.17]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44D9411E809B for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2012 16:54:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from 172.18.7.190 (EHLO lhreml204-edg.china.huawei.com) ([172.18.7.190]) by lhrrg01-dlp.huawei.com (MOS 4.3.5-GA FastPath queued) with ESMTP id ANH72719; Thu, 29 Nov 2012 00:54:41 +0000 (GMT) Received: from LHREML402-HUB.china.huawei.com (10.201.5.241) by lhreml204-edg.china.huawei.com (172.18.7.223) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.1.323.3; Thu, 29 Nov 2012 00:54:15 +0000 Received: from SZXEML402-HUB.china.huawei.com (10.82.67.32) by lhreml402-hub.china.huawei.com (10.201.5.241) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.1.323.3; Thu, 29 Nov 2012 00:54:25 +0000 Received: from w53375 (10.138.41.149) by szxeml402-hub.china.huawei.com (10.82.67.32) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.1.323.3; Thu, 29 Nov 2012 08:54:23 +0800 Message-ID: From: Qin Wu To: Hadriel Kaplan References: Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2012 08:54:22 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6109 X-Originating-IP: [10.138.41.149] X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected Cc: mmusic@ietf.org, draft-ietf-mmusic-media-loopback@tools.ietf.org, Gonzalo Camarillo Subject: Re: [MMUSIC] NEED WG CONSENSUS: media-loopback is all-or-nothing X-BeenThere: mmusic@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Multiparty Multimedia Session Control Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2012 00:54:46 -0000 Tm8sDQpJIHNlZSBpdCB3aWxsIGJlIG1vcmUgZmxleGlibGUgdG8gYWxsb3cgc29tZSBiZWluZyBs b29wZWQgYmFjayB3aGlsZSBzb21lIG5vdC4NCg0KUmVnYXJkcyENCi1RaW4NCi0tLS0tIE9yaWdp bmFsIE1lc3NhZ2UgLS0tLS0gDQpGcm9tOiAiQ3VsbGVuIEplbm5pbmdzIChmbHVmZnkpIiA8Zmx1 ZmZ5QGNpc2NvLmNvbT4NClRvOiAiSGFkcmllbCBLYXBsYW4iIDxIS2FwbGFuQGFjbWVwYWNrZXQu Y29tPg0KQ2M6IDxtbXVzaWNAaWV0Zi5vcmc+OyA8ZHJhZnQtaWV0Zi1tbXVzaWMtbWVkaWEtbG9v cGJhY2tAdG9vbHMuaWV0Zi5vcmc+OyAiR29uemFsbyBDYW1hcmlsbG8iIDxnb256YWxvLmNhbWFy aWxsb0Blcmljc3Nvbi5jb20+DQpTZW50OiBUdWVzZGF5LCBOb3ZlbWJlciAyNywgMjAxMiAxMTo0 MyBBTQ0KU3ViamVjdDogUmU6IFtNTVVTSUNdIE5FRUQgV0cgQ09OU0VOU1VTOiBtZWRpYS1sb29w YmFjayBpcyBhbGwtb3Itbm90aGluZw0KDQoNCj4gDQo+IG5vDQo+IA0KPiANCj4gT24gTm92IDIw LCAyMDEyLCBhdCAxMToxNiAsIEhhZHJpZWwgS2FwbGFuIDxIS2FwbGFuQGFjbWVwYWNrZXQuY29t PiB3cm90ZToNCj4gDQo+PiBIb3dkeSwNCj4+IGR1cmluZyBJRVNHIHJldmlldyBvZiB0aGUgbWVk aWEtbG9vcGJhY2sgZHJhZnQsIGEgZGlzY3Vzc2lvbiBhcm9zZSByZWdhcmRpbmcgdGhlIGxhbmd1 YWdlIGFyb3VuZCBpbmRpY2F0aW5nIG1lZGlhLWxvb3BiYWNrIHN1cHBvcnQgcGVyIG1lZGlhIGRl c2NyaXB0aW9uIChpLmUuLCBwZXIgbS1saW5lKSwgaW4gc2VjdGlvbnMgMy4xIGFuZCAzLjIuDQo+ PiANCj4+IE15IGludGVycHJldGF0aW9uL3VuZGVyc3RhbmRpbmcgd2FzIHdlIHdlcmUgcmVxdWly aW5nIEFMTCBtLWxpbmVzIHRvIGluZGljYXRlIG1lZGlhLWxvb3BiYWNrOyBpbiBvdGhlciB3b3Jk cyBpdCdzIGFuIGFsbC1vci1ub3RoaW5nIGluIGJvdGggdGhlIG9mZmVyK2Fuc3dlciwgYW5kIGVp dGhlciBldmVyeSBtZWRpYSBzdHJlYW0gaXMgbG9vcGVkIGJhY2ssIG9yIG5vbmUgYXJlLiAgSG93 ZXZlciB0aGUgdGV4dCBjdXJyZW50bHkgZG9lc24ndCBtYWtlIHRoaXMgY2xlYXIsIGFuZCBpdCBj b3VsZCBiZSBhcmd1ZWQgZWl0aGVyIHdheSwgd2l0aCBwcm8ncy9jb24ncyBlaXRoZXIgd2F5IHRv bzsgc28gSSdkIGxpa2UgdGhlIFdHJ3MgY29uc2Vuc3VzIG9uIHdoZXRoZXIgaXQgc2hvdWxkIGlu IGZhY3QgYmUgYW4gYWxsLW9yLW5vbmUgYXBwcm9hY2gsIG9yIG5vdC4NCj4+IA0KPj4gUGxlYXNl IHJlc3BvbmQgdG8gdGhpcyBlbWFpbCBieSAqKlR1ZXNkYXksIERlY2VtYmVyIDR0aCoqIHdpdGgg YSAiWUVTIiBpZiB0aGUgZHJhZnQgc2hvdWxkIG1hbmRhdGUgQUxMIG1lZGlhIGJlIGxvb3BlZC1i YWNrLCBvciAiTk8iIGlmIGl0IHNob3VsZCBhbGxvdyBhIGh5YnJpZCBhcHByb2FjaCBvZiBzb21l IHN0cmVhbXMgYmVpbmcgbG9vcGVkIHdoaWxlIG90aGVycyBhcmUgbm90Lg0KPj4gDQo+PiBGb3Ig cmVmZXJlbmNlLCB0aGUgZHJhZnQgaXMgaGVyZToNCj4+IGh0dHA6Ly90b29scy5pZXRmLm9yZy9o dG1sL2RyYWZ0LWlldGYtbW11c2ljLW1lZGlhLWxvb3BiYWNrLTI0DQo+PiANCj4+IC1oYWRyaWVs DQo+PiANCj4+IF9fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19f DQo+PiBtbXVzaWMgbWFpbGluZyBsaXN0DQo+PiBtbXVzaWNAaWV0Zi5vcmcNCj4+IGh0dHBzOi8v d3d3LmlldGYub3JnL21haWxtYW4vbGlzdGluZm8vbW11c2ljDQo+IA0KPiBfX19fX19fX19fX19f X19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fXw0KPiBtbXVzaWMgbWFpbGluZyBsaXN0 DQo+IG1tdXNpY0BpZXRmLm9yZw0KPiBodHRwczovL3d3dy5pZXRmLm9yZy9tYWlsbWFuL2xpc3Rp bmZvL21tdXNpYw==