Re: [MMUSIC] New Version Notification for draft-ietf-mmusic-trickle-ice-sip-06.txt

Christer Holmberg <christer.holmberg@ericsson.com> Mon, 07 November 2016 18:35 UTC

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From: Christer Holmberg <christer.holmberg@ericsson.com>
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Subject: Re: [MMUSIC] New Version Notification for draft-ietf-mmusic-trickle-ice-sip-06.txt
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Hi,

>> Thanks for taking my comments into consideration.
>>
>> However, "currently used" is probably not good wording, because it¹s 
>> unclear what ³used² means. Most would probably think it means you are 
>> currently sending data using those candidates, which is not the case. 
>> So "active", or something similar, would probably be better.
>>
>> Having said that, my preference and suggestion is still that the INFOs 
>> only contain the NEW candidates.
>
> Given the complexity of this draft, the very low amount of cycles the authors seem to have
> for it and how I personally don't see this solving a non-trivial problem then I'd strongly object
> to making such a major change so late in the life cycle of this draft.

But, then the draft needs to be very clear on the semantics of the candidates included - and what it means if an active candidate for whatever reason is NOT included. 

> (weren't you the one that actually suggested cumulative sending of candidates back in the day by the way? :) )

I could be wrong, but I doubt that :)

Regards,

Christer



> On 01/11/16 00:03, "mmusic on behalf of Thomas Stach"
> <mmusic-bounces@ietf.org on behalf of thomass.stach@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> All,
>>
>> changes from draft-ietf-mmusic-trickle-ice-sip-05 include the following:
>>
>>    o  considered further comments from Christer Holmberg
>>
>>    o  editorial comments on section 3 addressed
>>
>>    o  moved section 3.1 to section 10.1 and applied some edits
>>
>>    o  replaced the term "previously sent candidates" with "currently
>>       known and used candidates".
>>
>> Regards
>> Thomas
>>
>>
>> On 2016-10-31 23:01, internet-drafts@ietf.org wrote:
>>> A new version of I-D, draft-ietf-mmusic-trickle-ice-sip-06.txt
>>> has been successfully submitted by Thomas Stach and posted to the 
>>> IETF repository.
>>>
>>> Name:		draft-ietf-mmusic-trickle-ice-sip
>>> Revision:	06
>>> Title:		A Session Initiation Protocol (SIP) usage for Trickle ICE
>>> Document date:	2016-10-31
>>> Group:		mmusic
>>> Pages:		38
>>> URL:
>>> https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-mmusic-trickle-ice-s
>>> ip-06
>>> .txt
>>> Status:
>>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-mmusic-trickle-ice-sip/
>>> Htmlized:
>>> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-mmusic-trickle-ice-sip-06
>>> Diff:
>>> https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-mmusic-trickle-ice-sip-
>>> 06
>>>
>>> Abstract:
>>>     The Interactive Connectivity Establishment (ICE) protocol 
>>> describes a
>>>     Network Address Translator (NAT) traversal mechanism for UDP-based
>>>     multimedia sessions established with the Offer/Answer model.  
>>> The ICE
>>>     extension for Incremental Provisioning of Candidates (Trickle ICE)
>>>     defines a mechanism that allows ICE agents to shorten session
>>>     establishment delays by making the candidate gathering and
>>>     connectivity checking phases of ICE non-blocking and by executing
>>>     them in parallel.
>>>
>>>     This document defines usage semantics for Trickle ICE with the
>>>     Session Initiation Protocol (SIP).
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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