Re: [MMUSIC] [rtcweb] SDP work needed for WebRTC stuff

On 12/11/2012 06:01 AM, Bernard Aboba wrote:
>
> I do not think that a single meeting, virtual or actual, will suffice 
> to get things back on track.  We need a fundamental change of approach.
>
I see the main purpose of meetings to serve as stopping points for 
discussions.
In order to be effective, the proposals for solutions have to be created 
before the meeting, and the meeting serves to accept, reject or modify 
the proposals.
>
> The basic problem is that WebRTC work items have been dispersed 
> between a number of WGs other than RTCWEB.  Within these WGs, WebRTC 
> is only a sideline.
>
> As a result, work items such as BUNDLE (which require non-trivial 
> analysis and discussion) have found themselves a needle in a haystack 
> of other items, getting a fraction of the attention that they need to 
> move forward.
>
Indeed.
>
> While allocating some substantial time at an in-person RTCWEB/MMUSIC 
> interim can help, for that time to be well spent will require 
> substantial preparation.  As an example, I could see a virtual AVTEXT 
> interim being scheduled for mid-January at which Jonathan Lennox's 
> hierarchy draft could be given substantial time and an MMUSIC virtual 
> interim in the same time frame which could be devoted to one or two 
> important topics (e.g. BUNDLE, SCTP).
>
> If that is done, then the issues requiring additional intensive work 
> might be narrowed to the point where an in-person meeting in early 
> February might be able to finish some of them off, with others handled 
> another round of virtual interims two weeks later.
>
> Bernard "MARTINI was hell -- but it only lasted a year" Aboba
>
>
>
> On 12/10/2012 8:18 PM, Eric Rescorla wrote:
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>     I'm not expertenough at the RAI WG mechanics to know what's
>     required, so perhaps
>
>     this requires making this also an MMUSIC interim or a mini-RAI
>     interim,
>
>     but if so that's what we should do, even if it means we need to
>     reschedule
>
>     or move it.
>
>
>
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