Re: [MMUSIC] Questions about ICE candidates with BUNDLE
Peter Thatcher <pthatcher@google.com> Thu, 25 February 2016 06:53 UTC
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From: Peter Thatcher <pthatcher@google.com>
Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2016 22:53:02 -0800
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Subject: Re: [MMUSIC] Questions about ICE candidates with BUNDLE
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That makes sense to me. On Sun, Feb 21, 2016 at 2:12 AM, Christer Holmberg < christer.holmberg@ericsson.com> wrote: > Hi Roman, > > I didn't check whether some of the ICE attributes were session-level, but > I agree with what you say: the same rule should apply to all media-level > ICE attributes. > > Regards, > > Christer > > Sent from my Windows Phone > ------------------------------ > From: Roman Shpount <roman@telurix.com> > Sent: 21/02/2016 08:21 > To: Christer Holmberg <christer.holmberg@ericsson.com> > Cc: Peter Thatcher <pthatcher@google.com>; mmusic@ietf.org; Paul Kyzivat > <pkyzivat@alum.mit.edu> > Subject: Re: [MMUSIC] Questions about ICE candidates with BUNDLE > > On Sat, Feb 20, 2016 at 12:57 PM, Christer Holmberg < > christer.holmberg@ericsson.com> wrote: > >> >> Correct, and that's one reason I suggest that we limit the scope to >> ICE, eventhough we probably >> >> could do the same thing for any IDENTICAL and TRANSPORT category >> attribute. >> > >> > While it would be nice to remove any duplication, the duplication is >> particularly painful for ICE candidates, because >> > there can be a lot of them, and because they change without any >> offer/answer action (thanks to trickle ICE). >> > So if we just covered that candidates, we'd be getting most of the >> value. >> >> Assuming the scope is ICE, shouldn't the same still apply also to other >> ICE related attributes? I assume the values for the "remote-candidates", >> "ice-lite", "ice-mismatch", "ice-ufrag", "ice-pwd", "ice-pacing" and >> "ice-options" attributes will be identical within a BUNDLE group, so... >> > > "ice-lite" and "ice-options" are session level only candidates, so they > should not be in the m= line BUNDLE or any other type. The same logic that > applies to ICe candidates should apply to other media level ICE SDP > attributes or things will break > > Regards, > _____________ > Roman Shpount > >
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