Re: [MMUSIC] BUNDLE: Accept m- line, reject bundle
Paul Kyzivat <pkyzivat@alum.mit.edu> Tue, 07 May 2013 18:33 UTC
Return-Path: <pkyzivat@alum.mit.edu>
X-Original-To: mmusic@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: mmusic@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix)
with ESMTP id E732621F93F8 for <mmusic@ietfa.amsl.com>;
Tue, 7 May 2013 11:33:25 -0700 (PDT)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -0.068
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.068 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.369,
BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_NET=0.611, RDNS_NONE=0.1]
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com
[127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id z-NTsA1ah7su for
<mmusic@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 7 May 2013 11:33:20 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from qmta10.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net
(qmta10.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [IPv6:2001:558:fe14:43:76:96:62:17])
by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECF0B21F9223 for <mmusic@ietf.org>;
Tue, 7 May 2013 11:33:19 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from omta24.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.76]) by
qmta10.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id YzNa1l0031ei1Bg5A6ZKd8;
Tue, 07 May 2013 18:33:19 +0000
Received: from Paul-Kyzivats-MacBook-Pro.local ([50.138.229.164]) by
omta24.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id Z6ZK1l00U3ZTu2S3k6ZKvW;
Tue, 07 May 2013 18:33:19 +0000
Message-ID: <518948EE.7030703@alum.mit.edu>
Date: Tue, 07 May 2013 14:33:18 -0400
From: Paul Kyzivat <pkyzivat@alum.mit.edu>
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.7;
rv:17.0) Gecko/20130328 Thunderbird/17.0.5
MIME-Version: 1.0
To: "Dale R. Worley" <worley@ariadne.com>
References: <7594FB04B1934943A5C02806D1A2204B1C36B4F6@ESESSMB209.ericsson.se>
<5183D141.7060607@alum.mit.edu>
<201305061800.r46I0R6t4259110@shell01.TheWorld.com>
In-Reply-To: <201305061800.r46I0R6t4259110@shell01.TheWorld.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=comcast.net;
s=q20121106; t=1367951599; bh=dCV6xS9lKceWlzYw796TRGZe67WaJLByLwLULQqk9eY=;
h=Received:Received:Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:Subject: Content-Type;
b=UEcdGbDCHl0tkoIjrFWrUlR36qT99ayXN1C86GHGrOkn5wEuUfDr8K5EFexSnuRpN
zRRVbjL8NnR0ABmIjDPstjUTMa5B44oYum0QWKWhT3f2hOyuvzXUVpd0PlteLGf9ZS
R+zeqPQBSybcYxZIHaf1lHv3VDeL3NxQgkRN/bCwH4WX3L6AMoX1amdTP/pchA8qlq
dCxP1qnl/q3aIf14RtlOxJFKEw18ICh9qc4X8zLagcoHzC+0jp4qGWaZI34sZ4Gb5u
VB7HfF0qKUe48iTEsAyxXJPiVIaAxUUhHvsW/7TNLLh0Ehi/L00xpoSePsgU9P2r5m
LPdO6Lj2755jg==
Cc: mmusic@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [MMUSIC] BUNDLE: Accept m- line, reject bundle
X-BeenThere: mmusic@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12
Precedence: list
List-Id: Multiparty Multimedia Session Control Working Group <mmusic.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/mmusic>,
<mailto:mmusic-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/mmusic>
List-Post: <mailto:mmusic@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:mmusic-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mmusic>,
<mailto:mmusic-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 May 2013 18:33:26 -0000
On 5/6/13 2:00 PM, Dale R. Worley wrote: >> From: Paul Kyzivat <pkyzivat@alum.mit.edu> >> >> (Note, this is a degenerate case of bundle splitting. There are real use >> cases for it. If it can be done without a 2nd o/a, then lets allow that.) > > Strictly speaking, it's not like other cases of bundle splitting, > because the separated m= line is not put into another bundle, but > remains unbundled. Because of that, the design considerations are > likely to be somewhat different. In my view it is a degenerate form that admits to special optimizations. It *could* be handled by establishing new bundles containing only the single m-line. But there is no value in doing that. And by *not* doing it, it is possible to handle everything in a single O/A rather than requiring a 2nd one. Thanks, Paul
- [MMUSIC] BUNDLE: Accept m- line, reject bundle Christer Holmberg
- Re: [MMUSIC] BUNDLE: Accept m- line, reject bundle Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [MMUSIC] BUNDLE: Accept m- line, reject bundle Christer Holmberg
- Re: [MMUSIC] BUNDLE: Accept m- line, reject bundle Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [MMUSIC] BUNDLE: Accept m- line, reject bundle Charles Eckel (eckelcu)
- Re: [MMUSIC] BUNDLE: Accept m- line, reject bundle Christer Holmberg
- Re: [MMUSIC] BUNDLE: Accept m- line, reject bundle Dale R. Worley
- Re: [MMUSIC] BUNDLE: Accept m- line, reject bundle Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [MMUSIC] BUNDLE: Accept m- line, reject bundle Cullen Jennings (fluffy)
- Re: [MMUSIC] BUNDLE: Accept m- line, reject bundle Martin Thomson
- Re: [MMUSIC] BUNDLE: Accept m- line, reject bundle Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [MMUSIC] BUNDLE: Accept m- line, reject bundle Martin Thomson
- Re: [MMUSIC] BUNDLE: Accept m- line, reject bundle Christer Holmberg
- Re: [MMUSIC] BUNDLE: Accept m- line, reject bundle Suhas Nandakumar