Re: [MMUSIC] NEED WG CONSENSUS: media-loopback is all-or-nothing

"Muthu Arul Mozhi Perumal (mperumal)" <mperumal@cisco.com> Wed, 21 November 2012 04:31 UTC

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From: "Muthu Arul Mozhi Perumal (mperumal)" <mperumal@cisco.com>
To: Hadriel Kaplan <HKaplan@acmepacket.com>, "mmusic@ietf.org (E-mail)" <mmusic@ietf.org>
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Cc: Gonzalo Camarillo <gonzalo.camarillo@ericsson.com>, "draft-ietf-mmusic-media-loopback@tools.ietf.org" <draft-ietf-mmusic-media-loopback@tools.ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [MMUSIC] NEED WG CONSENSUS: media-loopback is all-or-nothing
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|Please respond to this email by **Tuesday, December 4th** with a "YES" if the 
|draft should mandate ALL media be looped-back, or "NO" if it should allow a 
|hybrid approach of some streams being looped while others are not.

NO.

Muthu

|-----Original Message-----
|From: mmusic-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:mmusic-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Hadriel Kaplan
|Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 11:46 PM
|To: mmusic@ietf.org (E-mail)
|Cc: Gonzalo Camarillo; draft-ietf-mmusic-media-loopback@tools.ietf.org
|Subject: [MMUSIC] NEED WG CONSENSUS: media-loopback is all-or-nothing
|
|Howdy,
|during IESG review of the media-loopback draft, a discussion arose regarding the language around
|indicating media-loopback support per media description (i.e., per m-line), in sections 3.1 and 3.2.
|
|My interpretation/understanding was we were requiring ALL m-lines to indicate media-loopback; in other
|words it's an all-or-nothing in both the offer+answer, and either every media stream is looped back,
|or none are.  However the text currently doesn't make this clear, and it could be argued either way,
|with pro's/con's either way too; so I'd like the WG's consensus on whether it should in fact be an
|all-or-none approach, or not.
|
|Please respond to this email by **Tuesday, December 4th** with a "YES" if the draft should mandate ALL
|media be looped-back, or "NO" if it should allow a hybrid approach of some streams being looped while
|others are not.
|
|For reference, the draft is here:
|http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-mmusic-media-loopback-24
|
|-hadriel
|
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