Re: [MMUSIC] Proposal for what bundle should say about demux
Emil Ivov <emcho@jitsi.org> Thu, 23 May 2013 21:35 UTC
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Subject: Re: [MMUSIC] Proposal for what bundle should say about demux
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Hey all, So first of all, I'd like to say that I like the approach and think this is the way to go. I have just one concern here. I already mentioned it in the call but I am not quite sure what the answer was. So here I go: On 23.05.13, 21:02, Cullen Jennings (fluffy) wrote: > > Here's is my proposal for roughly what the bundle draft should say about this demux topic > > Application will decide which packet processing pipeline to pass an given RTP/RTCP packet to based on what the application knows: > > 1) If future RFCs define new things (like RTP header extension), that explicitly specify the mapping, check if that future RFC is in use and if so then use that to form the mapping So my problem with having the above as number one is that while it would work perfectly with protocols like XMPP that have good discovery support, it would be a problem for SDP O/A based ones like SIP and WebRTC. The reason is that even when demuxing RFCs like that exist, an offerer won't know if the remote party supports them. They would hence always need to construct an offer where a fallback to another mechanism could be possible (like for example falling back to uniquely allocated PTs). Now, if the offerer does indeed know in advance that the fancy demuxing RFC will be supported, and only then, they would be able to rely on it and be careless about PT allocation. I believe we've built bundle port allocation and trickle ICE (and a number of other O/A mechanisms) around the same model. Emil -- https://jitsi.org
- [MMUSIC] Proposal for what bundle should say abou… Cullen Jennings (fluffy)
- Re: [MMUSIC] Proposal for what bundle should say … Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [MMUSIC] Proposal for what bundle should say … Emil Ivov
- Re: [MMUSIC] Proposal for what bundle should say … Martin Thomson
- Re: [MMUSIC] Proposal for what bundle should say … Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [MMUSIC] Proposal for what bundle should say … Mo Zanaty (mzanaty)
- Re: [MMUSIC] Proposal for what bundle should say … Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [MMUSIC] Proposal for what bundle should say … Dale R. Worley
- Re: [MMUSIC] Proposal for what bundle should say … Cullen Jennings (fluffy)
- Re: [MMUSIC] Proposal for what bundle should say … Martin Thomson
- Re: [MMUSIC] Proposal for what bundle should say … Emil Ivov
- Re: [MMUSIC] Proposal for what bundle should say … Emil Ivov
- Re: [MMUSIC] Proposal for what bundle should say … Kevin Dempsey
- Re: [MMUSIC] Proposal for what bundle should say … Emil Ivov
- Re: [MMUSIC] Proposal for what bundle should say … Kevin Dempsey
- Re: [MMUSIC] Proposal for what bundle should say … Emil Ivov
- Re: [MMUSIC] Proposal for what bundle should say … Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [MMUSIC] Proposal for what bundle should say … Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [MMUSIC] Proposal for what bundle should say … Emil Ivov
- Re: [MMUSIC] Proposal for what bundle should say … Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [MMUSIC] Proposal for what bundle should say … Emil Ivov
- Re: [MMUSIC] Proposal for what bundle should say … Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [MMUSIC] Proposal for what bundle should say … Colin Perkins
- Re: [MMUSIC] Proposal for what bundle should say … Christer Holmberg
- Re: [MMUSIC] Proposal for what bundle should say … Cullen Jennings (fluffy)
- Re: [MMUSIC] Proposal for what bundle should say … Cullen Jennings (fluffy)
- Re: [MMUSIC] Proposal for what bundle should say … Colin Perkins
- Re: [MMUSIC] Proposal for what bundle should say … Colin Perkins
- Re: [MMUSIC] Proposal for what bundle should say … Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [MMUSIC] Proposal for what bundle should say … Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [MMUSIC] Proposal for what bundle should say … Colin Perkins
- Re: [MMUSIC] Proposal for what bundle should say … Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [MMUSIC] Proposal for what bundle should say … Colin Perkins
- Re: [MMUSIC] Proposal for what bundle should say … Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [MMUSIC] Proposal for what bundle should say … Mary Barnes
- Re: [MMUSIC] Proposal for what bundle should say … Cullen Jennings (fluffy)
- Re: [MMUSIC] Proposal for what bundle should say … Colin Perkins
- Re: [MMUSIC] Proposal for what bundle should say … Cullen Jennings