Re: [MMUSIC] Is ice-mismatch media or session level?
Flemming Andreasen <fandreas@cisco.com> Thu, 16 May 2019 03:53 UTC
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From: Flemming Andreasen <fandreas@cisco.com>
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Subject: Re: [MMUSIC] Is ice-mismatch media or session level?
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On 5/15/19 3:59 AM, Suhas Nandakumar wrote: > > On Mon, May 13, 2019 at 9:26 AM Flemming Andreasen <fandreas@cisco.com > <mailto:fandreas@cisco.com>> wrote: > > > > On 5/13/19 1:22 AM, Suhas Nandakumar wrote: >> I am inclined to leave it as media-level attribute. I am not sure >> what more clarification is needed in the text today ? > Are the clarifications Roman suggested below already included ? > > > > I am finding it hard to parse suggested clarification. I am sure I am > missing something. Roman suggested ice-mismatch should be defined for both media- and session-level. Looking further at the current text, I'm not sure I agree since there really isn't any normative behavior associated with receiving ice-mismatch. Thus, I'd suggest simply keeping it as-is and media-level only. -- Flemming > > > Thanks > > -- Flemming >> >> On Sun, May 12, 2019 at 8:41 PM Flemming Andreasen >> <fandreas@cisco.com <mailto:fandreas@cisco.com>> wrote: >> >> Based on the errata, it seems like the intent was for to be >> media-level. I'd suggest we keep it that way and add the >> clarifications you outline below. >> >> If people feel otherwise, please speak up no later than May 19. >> >> Thanks >> >> -- Flemming (with chair hat on) >> >> >> >> On 4/29/19 4:44 PM, Roman Shpount wrote: >>> Hi Christer, >>> >>> Thank you for reviewing and responding. >>> >>> On Sat, Apr 27, 2019 at 1:48 PM Christer Holmberg >>> <christer.holmberg@ericsson.com >>> <mailto:christer.holmberg@ericsson.com>> wrote: >>> >>> Before we just change something back we need to think >>> what the reason for the change to media-level was. Could >>> it be related to RTCWEB? >>> >>> >>> >>> This is definitely not RTCWEB related, since RTCWEB should >>> never generate ice-mismatch or use it for any reason. >>> >>> The ice-mismatch attribute was session only according to RFC >>> 5245 Section 21.1.4 >>> (https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5245#section-21.1.4). At the >>> same time, according to RFC 5245 Section 15..3 >>> (https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5245#section-15.3), >>> ice-mismatch is media level attribute only. This being said, >>> according to RFC 5245 Section 6.1 >>> (https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5245#section-6.1), >>> ice-mismatch applies to the whole session, but it is >>> specified per m= line. According to errata 3149 >>> (https://www.rfc-editor.org/errata/eid3149), ice-mismatch >>> should be media level. So, it is a bit of a mess. >>> >>> I can change ice-mismatch back to media level, but what we >>> need to clarify then is the following: If ice-mismatch is >>> present in the m= line, does it stop ICE processing for the >>> whole session or for this m= line only? >>> >>> If it stops ICE processing for the whole session then it >>> makes little or no sense being specified per m= line. If it >>> only stops processing for specific m= line, then >>> ice-mismatch probably also makes sense at the session level >>> to stop ICE processing for the whole session. >>> >>> I am definitely open to input here. >>> _____________ >>> Roman Shpount >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> mmusic mailing list >>> mmusic@ietf.org <mailto:mmusic@ietf.org> >>> https://www.ietf..org/mailman/listinfo/mmusic <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mmusic> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> mmusic mailing list >> mmusic@ietf.org <mailto:mmusic@ietf.org> >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mmusic >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> mmusic mailing list >> mmusic@ietf.org <mailto:mmusic@ietf.org> >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mmusic >
- [MMUSIC] Is ice-mismatch media or session level? Roman Shpount
- Re: [MMUSIC] Is ice-mismatch media or session lev… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [MMUSIC] Is ice-mismatch media or session lev… Roman Shpount
- Re: [MMUSIC] Is ice-mismatch media or session lev… Flemming Andreasen
- Re: [MMUSIC] Is ice-mismatch media or session lev… Suhas Nandakumar
- Re: [MMUSIC] Is ice-mismatch media or session lev… Flemming Andreasen
- Re: [MMUSIC] Is ice-mismatch media or session lev… Suhas Nandakumar
- Re: [MMUSIC] Is ice-mismatch media or session lev… Flemming Andreasen
- Re: [MMUSIC] Is ice-mismatch media or session lev… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [MMUSIC] Is ice-mismatch media or session lev… Suhas Nandakumar
- Re: [MMUSIC] Is ice-mismatch media or session lev… Roman Shpount
- Re: [MMUSIC] Is ice-mismatch media or session lev… Roman Shpount
- Re: [MMUSIC] Is ice-mismatch media or session lev… Suhas Nandakumar
- Re: [MMUSIC] Is ice-mismatch media or session lev… Roman Shpount