From: "Cullen Jennings (fluffy)" <fluffy@cisco.com>
To: "Miguel A. Garcia" <Miguel.A.Garcia@ericsson.com>
Thread-Topic: [MMUSIC] WGLC for draft-ietf-mmusic-sdp-miscellaneous-caps-01.txt
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Cc: "Flemming Andreasen \(fandreas\)" <fandreas@cisco.com>,
 mmusic WG <mmusic@ietf.org>,
 "draft-ietf-mmusic-sdp-miscellaneous-caps@tools.ietf.org"
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Subject: Re: [MMUSIC] WGLC for draft-ietf-mmusic-sdp-miscellaneous-caps-01.txt
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I think the issues is how does a manffacture says on a spec sheet that they=
 want support half of it but not all of it. I know that does not matter for=
 3GPP usage but it sort of useful for others. Clearly this is not a huge te=
chnical issues but a small procedural thing so I leave it up to the chairs =
what they want to do.=20

Any thoughts on making the changes so this works in world with more than en=
glish? That was my far more relevant comment that is likely to also be rais=
ed by IESG.



On Sep 29, 2012, at 1:34 AM, Miguel A. Garcia <Miguel.A.Garcia@ericsson.com=
> wrote:

> Cullen,
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> The draft is written as an independent collection of "objects". This is a=
void having three separate drafts.
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> It is possible to refer to parts of this draft. For example, I believe 3G=
PP only needs the connection data capability, but not the others, and still=
 they are fine with this draft.
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> Couldn't the same principle be applied by RTCweb?
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> /Miguel
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> On 28/09/2012 17:02, Atle Monrad wrote:
>> Hi
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>> Is it really necessary to chop the draft up in pieces because others may=
 want to use just parts of it?
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>> I find it more constuctive to finish this draft as is and let other be a=
ble to build on and refer to the RFC if and when possible.
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>> /atle
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>> ________________________________
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>> Atle Monrad
>> 3GPP CT Chairman
>> Standardization and Regulation,
>> Group Function Technology and Portfolio Management
>> Ericsson
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>>=20
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: mmusic-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:mmusic-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf=
 Of Cullen Jennings (fluffy)
>> Sent: 28. september 2012 16:47
>> To: mmusic WG
>> Cc: Flemming Andreasen (fandreas); draft-ietf-mmusic-sdp-miscellaneous-c=
aps@tools.ietf.org
>> Subject: Re: [MMUSIC] WGLC for draft-ietf-mmusic-sdp-miscellaneous-caps-=
01.txt
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>> Major comment
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>> I think the title stuff should be split out to a separate draft. The mai=
n reason is that you might want to build a dvicd that supported title but d=
id not supper the others and still be able to say what you were doing was R=
FC X. For example, the RTC Web folks may want to use this.
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>> Given the Title is meant to be human readable, I think it needs to be ex=
tended to have normal i18n support.
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>> Cullen
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>> On Sep 6, 2012, at 2:37 PM, Flemming Andreasen <fandreas@cisco.com> wrot=
e:
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>>> This is to announce a 2 week Working Group Last Call for
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>>>      draft-ietf-mmusic-sdp-miscellaneous-caps-01.txt
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>>> as Proposed Standard. Please review and provide any comments you may ha=
ve on the document by September 21, 2012. Comments should be sent to the do=
cument authors and the MMUSIC WG list.
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>>>=20
>>> Thanks
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>>>        Flemming
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>>> Draft Info:
>>>  This draft is a work item of the Multiparty Multimedia Session Control=
 Working Group of the IETF.
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>>> 	Title           : Miscellanoues Capabilities Negotiation in the Sessio=
n Description Protocol (SDP)
>>> 	Author(s)       : Miguel A. Garcia-Martin
>>>                           Simo Veikkolainen
>>>                           Robert R. Gilman
>>> 	Filename        : draft-ietf-mmusic-sdp-miscellaneous-caps-01.txt
>>> 	Pages           : 19
>>> 	Date            : 2012-08-27
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>>> Abstract:
>>>    SDP has been extended with a capability negotiation mechanism
>>>    framework that allows the endpoints to negotiate transport protocols
>>>    and attributes.  This framework has been extended with a media
>>>    capabilities negotiation mechanism that allows endpoints to negotiat=
e
>>>    additional media-related capabilities.  This negotiation is embedded
>>>    into the widely-used SDP offer/answer procedures.
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>>>    This memo extends the SDP capability negotiation framework to allow
>>>    endpoints to negotiate three additional SDP capabilities.  In
>>>    particular, this memo provides a mechanism to negotiate bandwidth
>>>    ('b=3D' line), connection data ('c=3D' line), and titles ('i=3D' lin=
e for
>>>    each session or media).
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>>> The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
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>>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-mmusic-sdp-miscellaneous-c
>>> aps
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>>> There's also a htmlized version available at:
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>>> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-mmusic-sdp-miscellaneous-caps-01
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>>> A diff from the previous version is available at:
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>>> http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-mmusic-sdp-miscellaneous-=
c
>>> aps-01
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>>> Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at:
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>>> ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/
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