Re: [MMUSIC] Scope of RTP payload types in BUNDLE?
Paul Kyzivat <pkyzivat@alum.mit.edu> Tue, 11 June 2013 14:46 UTC
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Subject: Re: [MMUSIC] Scope of RTP payload types in BUNDLE?
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On 6/11/13 2:00 AM, Cullen Jennings wrote: > > Sorry - trying to say > > Several of the implementations of 100rel have bugs in the case of where there is an outstanding transaction and they get an event that might cause them to want to start a second transaction before the first transaction completes. We are in real trouble if we say a feature can't be used because some implementations of it are buggy. We might as well all go home. (It's a different story if nobody is able to construct a working implementation.) Thanks, Paul > On Jun 10, 2013, at 7:47 PM, "DRAGE, Keith (Keith)" <keith.drage@alcatel-lucent.com> wrote: > >> "has an implantation that does not meet the requirements of the RFC - particularly in the many unspecified corner cases" >> >> Does not make sense! > >
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- Re: [MMUSIC] Scope of RTP payload types in BUNDLE? Colin Perkins
- Re: [MMUSIC] Scope of RTP payload types in BUNDLE? Paul Kyzivat
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- Re: [MMUSIC] Scope of RTP payload types in BUNDLE? Colin Perkins
- Re: [MMUSIC] Scope of RTP payload types in BUNDLE? Colin Perkins
- Re: [MMUSIC] Scope of RTP payload types in BUNDLE? Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [MMUSIC] Scope of RTP payload types in BUNDLE? Colin Perkins
- Re: [MMUSIC] Scope of RTP payload types in BUNDLE? Christer Holmberg
- Re: [MMUSIC] Scope of RTP payload types in BUNDLE? Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [MMUSIC] Scope of RTP payload types in BUNDLE? Colin Perkins
- Re: [MMUSIC] Scope of RTP payload types in BUNDLE? Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [MMUSIC] Scope of RTP payload types in BUNDLE? Colin Perkins
- Re: [MMUSIC] Scope of RTP payload types in BUNDLE? Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [MMUSIC] Scope of RTP payload types in BUNDLE? Colin Perkins
- Re: [MMUSIC] Scope of RTP payload types in BUNDLE? Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [MMUSIC] Scope of RTP payload types in BUNDLE? Cullen Jennings
- Re: [MMUSIC] Scope of RTP payload types in BUNDLE? Cullen Jennings
- Re: [MMUSIC] Scope of RTP payload types in BUNDLE? Cullen Jennings
- Re: [MMUSIC] Scope of RTP payload types in BUNDLE? Cullen Jennings
- Re: [MMUSIC] Scope of RTP payload types in BUNDLE? Cullen Jennings
- Re: [MMUSIC] Scope of RTP payload types in BUNDLE? Cullen Jennings
- Re: [MMUSIC] Scope of RTP payload types in BUNDLE? Bernard Aboba
- Re: [MMUSIC] Scope of RTP payload types in BUNDLE? Magnus Westerlund
- Re: [MMUSIC] Scope of RTP payload types in BUNDLE? Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [MMUSIC] Scope of RTP payload types in BUNDLE? Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [MMUSIC] Scope of RTP payload types in BUNDLE? Christer Holmberg
- Re: [MMUSIC] Scope of RTP payload types in BUNDLE? Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [MMUSIC] Scope of RTP payload types in BUNDLE? Christer Holmberg
- Re: [MMUSIC] Scope of RTP payload types in BUNDLE? Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [MMUSIC] Scope of RTP payload types in BUNDLE? Cullen Jennings
- Re: [MMUSIC] Scope of RTP payload types in BUNDLE? Cullen Jennings
- Re: [MMUSIC] Scope of RTP payload types in BUNDLE? Cullen Jennings
- Re: [MMUSIC] Scope of RTP payload types in BUNDLE? Bernard Aboba
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- Re: [MMUSIC] Scope of RTP payload types in BUNDLE? Paul Kyzivat
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- Re: [MMUSIC] Scope of RTP payload types in BUNDLE? Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [MMUSIC] Scope of RTP payload types in BUNDLE? Cullen Jennings
- Re: [MMUSIC] Scope of RTP payload types in BUNDLE? Cullen Jennings
- Re: [MMUSIC] Scope of RTP payload types in BUNDLE? Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [MMUSIC] Scope of RTP payload types in BUNDLE? Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [MMUSIC] Scope of RTP payload types in BUNDLE? Bernard Aboba
- Re: [MMUSIC] Scope of RTP payload types in BUNDLE? Bernard Aboba
- Re: [MMUSIC] Scope of RTP payload types in BUNDLE? Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [MMUSIC] Scope of RTP payload types in BUNDLE? Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [MMUSIC] Scope of RTP payload types in BUNDLE? Cullen Jennings
- Re: [MMUSIC] Scope of RTP payload types in BUNDLE? Cullen Jennings
- Re: [MMUSIC] Scope of RTP payload types in BUNDLE? DRAGE, Keith (Keith)
- Re: [MMUSIC] Scope of RTP payload types in BUNDLE? Stach, Thomas
- Re: [MMUSIC] Scope of RTP payload types in BUNDLE? Stach, Thomas
- Re: [MMUSIC] Scope of RTP payload types in BUNDLE? Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [MMUSIC] Scope of RTP payload types in BUNDLE? Paul Kyzivat
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