Re: [MMUSIC] T.38 (Re: M-line philosophy (Re: Wisdom sought: Prioritization of codecs))
Flemming Andreasen <fandreas@cisco.com> Tue, 20 November 2012 21:39 UTC
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Subject: Re: [MMUSIC] T.38 (Re: M-line philosophy (Re: Wisdom sought: Prioritization of codecs))
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On 11/20/12 3:47 AM, Harald Alvestrand wrote: > On 11/19/2012 05:57 PM, Adam Roach wrote: >> On 11/19/12 10:50, Harald Alvestrand wrote: >>>> ...T.38 fax isn't one of them. Sadly. >>> >>> What's your scenario where T.38 fax over RTP is relevant when file >>> transfer over a reliable channel is available between the same 2 >>> devices? >> >> This is a rat hole that I'm not going to dive too far into, but my >> understanding is that the tenacity of fax as an underlying technology >> has to do with a substantial body of U.S. case law that establishes >> that faxed legal documents are binding, while leaving the issue of >> transmission using a technology known by any other name unsettled. >> >> Is this a mind-numbingly stupid reason for it to hang on? Yeah, >> maybe. Does that change the facts on the ground? No. Not even a >> little bit. > Sympathy. I've read the original judge's opinion in the English court > case that established telex as legally binding - he explicitly said "I > have this opinion not because it is technically sound, but because it > is necessary to keep commerce flowing". We're still there, and the fax > industry keeps chugging along because of it. > > Still, I don't see the compelling use case for T.38 fax over RTP *into > browsers*. Why not if that's the only client I have ? -- Flemming
- [MMUSIC] Wisdom sought: Prioritization of codecs Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [MMUSIC] Wisdom sought: Prioritization of cod… Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [MMUSIC] Wisdom sought: Prioritization of cod… Flemming Andreasen
- Re: [MMUSIC] Wisdom sought: Prioritization of cod… Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [MMUSIC] Wisdom sought: Prioritization of cod… Adam Roach
- Re: [MMUSIC] Wisdom sought: Prioritization of cod… Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [MMUSIC] Wisdom sought: Prioritization of cod… Adam Roach
- Re: [MMUSIC] Wisdom sought: Prioritization of cod… Bernard Aboba
- [MMUSIC] M-line philosophy (Re: Wisdom sought: Pr… Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [MMUSIC] M-line philosophy (Re: Wisdom sought… Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [MMUSIC] M-line philosophy (Re: Wisdom sought… Matthew Kaufman
- Re: [MMUSIC] M-line philosophy (Re: Wisdom sought… Adam Roach
- Re: [MMUSIC] M-line philosophy (Re: Wisdom sought… Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [MMUSIC] M-line philosophy (Re: Wisdom sought… Adam Roach
- Re: [MMUSIC] M-line philosophy (Re: Wisdom sought… Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [MMUSIC] M-line philosophy (Re: Wisdom sought… Harald Alvestrand
- [MMUSIC] T.38 (Re: M-line philosophy (Re: Wisdom … Adam Roach
- Re: [MMUSIC] T.38 (Re: M-line philosophy (Re: Wis… Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [MMUSIC] T.38 (Re: M-line philosophy (Re: Wis… Flemming Andreasen
- Re: [MMUSIC] T.38 (Re: M-line philosophy (Re: Wis… Adam Roach
- Re: [MMUSIC] M-line philosophy (Re: Wisdom sought… Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [MMUSIC] M-line philosophy (Re: Wisdom sought… Flemming Andreasen
- Re: [MMUSIC] M-line philosophy (Re: Wisdom sought… Bernard Aboba
- Re: [MMUSIC] M-line philosophy (Re: Wisdom sought… Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [MMUSIC] M-line philosophy (Re: Wisdom sought… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [MMUSIC] Wisdom sought: Prioritization of cod… Horvath, Ernst