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Re: [Model-t] draft-thomson-tmi

Spencer Dawkins at IETF <spencerdawkins.ietf@gmail.com> Tue, 21 July 2020 13:12 UTC

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From: Spencer Dawkins at IETF <spencerdawkins.ietf@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2020 08:11:36 -0500
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Subject: Re: [Model-t] draft-thomson-tmi
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I'm interested in this topic, but have no special expertise.

>From my point of view,

On Wed, Jul 15, 2020 at 9:11 AM Vittorio Bertola <vittorio.bertola=
40open-xchange.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:

>
> Part of the problem of this discussion is that different technical and
> operational communities have different hammers and so are looking to treat
> everything as if it were a different kind of nail. I mean, you could easily
> reverse your consideration and agree that not being able to trust
> intermediaries that you bought Internet service from is a problem, but
> disagree that less intermediation is any sort of solution.
>
> Or, to Eric's comment, if you make browsers you will use browser-based ad
> blocking and that will seem to you the common way of doing it, while if you
> run DNS resolvers (or raspis with a Pi-hole) you will use DNS-based ad
> blocking and that will seem to you the common way of doing it. Possibly
> end-usage statistics reflect the dominance of global platforms over local
> network operators - I don't know the numbers.
>
> But in the end, I do not know how to reconcile radically different views
> on where services should be provided from. This is not a technical
> disagreement, it is more of an architectural and philosophical one with
> business and geopolitical implications.
>

seems especially relevant.

Best,

Spencer

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