Re: [Modern] Nationwide Number Portability MODERN Use Case Draft

[Richard Shockey <[e-mail]>]

As much as I hate to give Jon any real ammo for his argument. I don’t think the use cases adequately covered the IoT issue and E.212. As we pointed out the relationship between TSP and consumer is the critical element specifically due to the billing relationship.  The issue w Telematics and further IoT issues does point out that the number management systems might be structured differently for different application sets. But the ultimate validity three part system Registrant Registrar and Registry still holds.


On 3/1/16, 2:38 PM, "Modern on behalf of Henning Schulzrinne" <[e-mail] on behalf of [e-mail]> wrote:

>Even though it's rarely used without the aid of an address book, the all-numbers, least-common-denominator property still seems to matter. It might be the only thing you can read on a Chinese poster or a Korean hotel business card. This seems to be one of those cases where 100% coverage is much more valuable than 95% cases-covered. Often, if you need the phone number, you really need it, right now (and well beyond 911 and kin).
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>In many cases, the phone number has also become a (secondary) customer identifier, so converting to something else means updating the grocery store loyalty card, the bank customer database and similar systems. As long as humans write things less than calligraphy-quality, numbers also seem less likely to get confused (i vs. 1, O vs. 0, j vs. i, m vs. n).


RS> Indeed and with NG-NP we can eliminate one more hassle for the consumer. And increase the NANP size ..etc. Of course by the time it could be successfully implemented I’ll probably be raising goats in western part of VA.  


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>From: Modern <[e-mail]> on behalf of Paul Kyzivat <[e-mail]>
>Sent: Tuesday, March 1, 2016 1:07 PM
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>Subject: Re: [Modern] Nationwide Number Portability MODERN Use Case Draft
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>On 2/29/16 6:52 PM, Richard Shockey wrote:
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>> If I had 5 dollars for every time I've heard “phone numbers are stupid”  “We need to use SIP URI’s". I would not be on this list but enjoying the sun at my retirement home on St. Barts or some other charming estate with my own private distillery making craft gin or calvados. I have yet to see a SIP URI on any Pizza Delivery vehicle.
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>Sure. But how many people discover how to order a pizza by looking at a
>pizza car?
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>For that matter, what percentage of phone calls involve someone actually
>typing in a phone number?
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>To the extent that the number is simply something listed in your address
>book, or in a link on a web site, there is no real reason for it to be
>an E.164 number.
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>The key feature of phone numbers is that there is a broadly
>interoperable infrastructure for communicating between things identified
>by those numbers.
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>        Thanks,
>        Paul
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