Re: [Modern] Nationwide Number Portability MODERN Use Case Draft
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Subject: Re: [Modern] Nationwide Number Portability MODERN Use Case Draft
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Even though it's rarely used without the aid of an address book, the all-numbers, least-common-denominator property still seems to matter. It might be the only thing you can read on a Chinese poster or a Korean hotel business card. This seems to be one of those cases where 100% coverage is much more valuable than 95% cases-covered. Often, if you need the phone number, you really need it, right now (and well beyond 911 and kin). In many cases, the phone number has also become a (secondary) customer identifier, so converting to something else means updating the grocery store loyalty card, the bank customer database and similar systems. As long as humans write things less than calligraphy-quality, numbers also seem less likely to get confused (i vs. 1, O vs. 0, j vs. i, m vs. n). ________________________________________ From: Modern <modern-bounces@ietf.org> on behalf of Paul Kyzivat <pkyzivat@alum.mit.edu> Sent: Tuesday, March 1, 2016 1:07 PM To: modern@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Modern] Nationwide Number Portability MODERN Use Case Draft On 2/29/16 6:52 PM, Richard Shockey wrote: > > If I had 5 dollars for every time I've heard “phone numbers are stupid” “We need to use SIP URI’s". I would not be on this list but enjoying the sun at my retirement home on St. Barts or some other charming estate with my own private distillery making craft gin or calvados. I have yet to see a SIP URI on any Pizza Delivery vehicle. Sure. But how many people discover how to order a pizza by looking at a pizza car? For that matter, what percentage of phone calls involve someone actually typing in a phone number? To the extent that the number is simply something listed in your address book, or in a link on a web site, there is no real reason for it to be an E.164 number. The key feature of phone numbers is that there is a broadly interoperable infrastructure for communicating between things identified by those numbers. Thanks, Paul
- [Modern] Nationwide Number Portability MODERN Use… McGarry, Tom
- Re: [Modern] Nationwide Number Portability MODERN… Richard Hill
- Re: [Modern] Nationwide Number Portability MODERN… McGarry, Tom
- Re: [Modern] Nationwide Number Portability MODERN… Richard Hill
- Re: [Modern] Nationwide Number Portability MODERN… McGarry, Tom
- Re: [Modern] Nationwide Number Portability MODERN… Gorman, Pierce A [CTO]
- Re: [Modern] Nationwide Number Portability MODERN… Holmes, David W [CTO]
- Re: [Modern] Nationwide Number Portability MODERN… Peterson, Jon
- Re: [Modern] Nationwide Number Portability MODERN… Gorman, Pierce A [CTO]
- Re: [Modern] Nationwide Number Portability MODERN… Peterson, Jon
- Re: [Modern] Nationwide Number Portability MODERN… Gorman, Pierce A [CTO]
- Re: [Modern] Nationwide Number Portability MODERN… Peterson, Jon
- Re: [Modern] Nationwide Number Portability MODERN… Richard Shockey
- Re: [Modern] Nationwide Number Portability MODERN… Peterson, Jon
- Re: [Modern] Nationwide Number Portability MODERN… Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [Modern] Nationwide Number Portability MODERN… Richard Shockey
- Re: [Modern] Nationwide Number Portability MODERN… Peterson, Jon
- [Modern] A Way out of the "What is MODERN" Circul… Eric Burger
- Re: [Modern] A Way out of the "What is MODERN" Ci… Peterson, Jon
- Re: [Modern] Nationwide Number Portability MODERN… Gorman, Pierce A [CTO]
- Re: [Modern] Nationwide Number Portability MODERN… Peterson, Jon
- Re: [Modern] Nationwide Number Portability MODERN… Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [Modern] Nationwide Number Portability MODERN… Henning Schulzrinne
- Re: [Modern] Nationwide Number Portability MODERN… Henning Schulzrinne
- Re: [Modern] Nationwide Number Portability MODERN… Richard Shockey
- Re: [Modern] Nationwide Number Portability MODERN… Gorman, Pierce A [CTO]
- Re: [Modern] Nationwide Number Portability MODERN… Henning Schulzrinne
- Re: [Modern] Nationwide Number Portability MODERN… Henning Schulzrinne
- Re: [Modern] Nationwide Number Portability MODERN… DOLLY, MARTIN C
- Re: [Modern] Nationwide Number Portability MODERN… Richard Shockey
- Re: [Modern] Nationwide Number Portability MODERN… Henning Schulzrinne
- Re: [Modern] Nationwide Number Portability MODERN… Richard Shockey
- Re: [Modern] Nationwide Number Portability MODERN… Richard Hill
- Re: [Modern] Nationwide Number Portability MODERN… Richard Hill
- Re: [Modern] Nationwide Number Portability MODERN… Richard Hill
- Re: [Modern] Nationwide Number Portability MODERN… Richard Hill
- Re: [Modern] Nationwide Number Portability MODERN… Richard Shockey
- Re: [Modern] Nationwide Number Portability MODERN… DOLLY, MARTIN C
- Re: [Modern] Nationwide Number Portability MODERN… Henning Schulzrinne
- Re: [Modern] Nationwide Number Portability MODERN… Henning Schulzrinne
- Re: [Modern] Nationwide Number Portability MODERN… Henning Schulzrinne
- Re: [Modern] Nationwide Number Portability MODERN… Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [Modern] Nationwide Number Portability MODERN… Henning Schulzrinne
- Re: [Modern] Nationwide Number Portability MODERN… Richard Shockey
- Re: [Modern] Nationwide Number Portability MODERN… Richard Hill
- Re: [Modern] Nationwide Number Portability MODERN… Gorman, Pierce A [CTO]
- Re: [Modern] Nationwide Number Portability MODERN… Henning Schulzrinne
- Re: [Modern] Nationwide Number Portability MODERN… Gorman, Pierce A [CTO]
- Re: [Modern] Nationwide Number Portability MODERN… Henning Schulzrinne
- Re: [Modern] Nationwide Number Portability MODERN… Gorman, Pierce A [CTO]