Re: [MEXT] [tsv-dir] tsv-dir review of draft-ietf-mext-nemo-v4traversal-06.txt

Matt Mathis <mathis@psc.edu> Tue, 02 December 2008 12:30 UTC

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From: Matt Mathis <mathis@psc.edu>
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Subject: Re: [MEXT] [tsv-dir] tsv-dir review of draft-ietf-mext-nemo-v4traversal-06.txt
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On Mon, 1 Dec 2008, Hesham Soliman wrote:

>
>>>
>>> => Well, I'm not sure how a NAT can do that. You mean the NAT will
>>> parse the binding update message deep inside the IPv6 extension
>>> header in the inner IP packet? This is where the original address
>>> is preserved. To do that, a NAT would have to understand the
>>> various MIPv6 options, and if it did, it would know not to do
>>> that :) The inner header is IPv6, so a NAT should not touch that.
>>
>> My understanding from the STUN work is that NATs have been observed
>> which rewrite any sequence of four aligned bytes matching the source
>> IP address, irrespective of its location within the packet (section
>> 15.2 of RFC 5389).
>
> => Sounds freightning! May be we need to mandate encryption and hope that no
> 4-byte sequence matched the IP address? What do they do with encrypted
> packets? How do they know they're encrypted?

I'd really hate to have address 32.116.104.101   (" the")....
Such devices can't possibly survive, can they?

Aghast,
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