Re: [Mops] So, what is streaming media, anyway? :-)

Leslie Daigle <ldaigle@thinkingcat.com> Mon, 27 April 2020 21:21 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Mops] So, what is streaming media, anyway? :-)
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Hi,

Trying to see if we can sum up where we are at.

I think we agree that these are in:
	1/ On-demand streaming of pre-recorded media (e.g., watching movies at 
home), and
	2/ Streaming/viewing (one way) of live events - e.g., football matches, 
presidential announcements

I think we agree that these are out:
	3/ face-to-face video chat (or telephony), video conferencing

And we haven’t concluded on:
	4/ cloud gaming


I think the point to keep in mind for “4/“ is that we had the input 
from Stadia because of the delivery of high-quality pre-developed video 
as an integral part of the gaming experience.   So, we’re not trying 
to keep up with the full gamut of interactive gaming, but rather focus 
on the degree to which it provides another case of shipping video over 
the Internet where the video (quality) is the thing.  (Video chat and 
teleconferencing are, hopefully, about realtime interchange, not 
pre-canned video).


Thoughts?

Leslie.

On 21 Apr 2020, at 22:31, Spencer Dawkins at IETF wrote:

> Dear MOPS,
>
> We have an issue in
> https://github.com/ietf-wg-mops/draft-ietf-mops-streaming-opcons/  
> that
> proposes a "low-latency" section in draft-ietf-mops-streaming-opcons, 
> and
> discussion on that PR is starting to poke at what I understood the 
> limits
> of MOPS scope to be, bringing in (checks notes) "RTMP, RTSP 2.0, 
> WebRTC and
> globally all kinds of RTP-based streaming techs", STADIA, and SRT as
> possible topics.
>
> This is, I think, the kind of conversation that we should be having on 
> the
> working group mailing list ("when a topic is bigger than a 
> conversation on
> an issue in Github ought to be").
>
> Could people take a look at
> https://github.com/ietf-wg-mops/draft-ietf-mops-streaming-opcons/issues/3,
> and let the working group know your thoughts?
>
> Do The Right Thing, of course.
>
> Best,
>
> Spencer


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