Re: [Mops] AD review of draft-ietf-mops-streaming-opcons-09

"Eric Vyncke (evyncke)" <evyncke@cisco.com> Fri, 08 April 2022 16:21 UTC

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From: "Eric Vyncke (evyncke)" <evyncke@cisco.com>
To: "Ali C. Begen" <ali.begen=40networked.media@dmarc.ietf.org>, "Holland, Jake" <jholland@akamai.com>
CC: Jake Holland <jakeholland.net@gmail.com>, Kyle Rose <krose@krose.org>, MOPS Working Group <mops@ietf.org>, Spencer Dawkins at IETF <spencerdawkins.ietf@gmail.com>, "mops-chairs@ietf.org" <mops-chairs@ietf.org>
Thread-Topic: [Mops] AD review of draft-ietf-mops-streaming-opcons-09
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Subject: Re: [Mops] AD review of draft-ietf-mops-streaming-opcons-09
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Indeed,

Finalized or at least decided ;-) As I said during the MOPS meeting in Vienna, github is one way, having -bis document is another way, and may be other ways may exist.

Finally, all my comments are just like a WGLC comment, authors are free to ignore (and sorry if I was not clear).

Regards

-éric

From: "Ali C. Begen" <ali.begen=40networked.media@dmarc.ietf.org>
Date: Friday, 8 April 2022 at 17:24
To: "Holland, Jake" <jholland@akamai.com>
Cc: Eric Vyncke <evyncke@cisco.com>, Jake Holland <jakeholland.net@gmail.com>, Kyle Rose <krose@krose.org>, MOPS Working Group <mops@ietf.org>, Spencer Dawkins at IETF <spencerdawkins.ietf@gmail.com>, "mops-chairs@ietf.org" <mops-chairs@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [Mops] AD review of draft-ietf-mops-streaming-opcons-09

Then obviously the living document process needs to be finalized.

On Fri, Apr 8, 2022 at 6:18 PM Holland, Jake <jholland@akamai.com<mailto:jholland@akamai.com>> wrote:
Hi Kyle,

Yes, there’s been some activity in the repo and we haven’t yet published a new draft.

Spencer has split each of Eric’s comments into an issue, and in our 2 sessions in the last 2 weeks we’ve discussed I think most of them so far with text for many, and we have another session scheduled for next week.

Please do feel free to review and comment:
https://github.com/ietf-wg-mops/draft-ietf-mops-streaming-opcons/issues

I will highlight #98 in particular as a wordsmithing complaint that has us stumped.  I think we’ll happily take text suggestions that have any buy-in that they successfully clarify the use of “simultaneous” to more closely describe “at the same time, but with a latency-driven time gap between sender and receiver” without getting more verbose and hard to follow, else the default plan is to mark it ‘wontfix’:
https://github.com/ietf-wg-mops/draft-ietf-mops-streaming-opcons/issues/98

-Jake


From: Kyle Rose <krose@krose.org<mailto:krose@krose.org>>
Date: Fri,2022-04-08 at 7:41 AM
To: Spencer Dawkins at IETF <spencerdawkins.ietf@gmail.com<mailto:spencerdawkins.ietf@gmail.com>>, "Ali C. Begen" <ali.begen@networked.media>, Jake Holland <jakeholland.net@gmail.com<mailto:jakeholland.net@gmail.com>>
Cc: "Eric Vyncke (evyncke)" <evyncke=40cisco.com@dmarc.ietf.org<mailto:40cisco.com@dmarc.ietf.org>>, "mops-chairs@ietf.org<mailto:mops-chairs@ietf.org>" <mops-chairs@ietf.org<mailto:mops-chairs@ietf.org>>, MOPS Working Group <mops@ietf.org<mailto:mops@ietf.org>>
Subject: Re: [Mops] AD review of draft-ietf-mops-streaming-opcons-09

Spencer, Jake, Ali: have you guys had a chance to address Éric's coments? The document is still in the "revised I-D needed" state on the data tracker. If there has been activity in the GitHub repo but no new draft pushed, that would also be useful information to share.

Thanks,
Kyle

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