Re: [Mops] Mirja Kühlewind's Block on charter-ietf-mops-00-01: (with BLOCK and COMMENT)

Mirja Kuehlewind <ietf@kuehlewind.net> Fri, 18 October 2019 15:44 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Mops] Mirja Kühlewind's Block on charter-ietf-mops-00-01: (with BLOCK and COMMENT)
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Thanks! Done.

> On 18. Oct 2019, at 03:06, Eric Vyncke (evyncke) <evyncke@cisco.com> wrote:
> 
> Mirja and other,
> 
> Leslie has worked on a revised charter https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/charter-ietf-mops/ including AFAIK all issues raised during the review and yesterday telechat. I have also added a milestone in 2 year for the IESG to revisit the charter of MOPS and decide to recharter, continue or close the WG.
> 
> Mirja, if the next text fixes your BLOCK, then would you mind clearing it ?
> 
> Thank you all for your assistance during this chartering of a very special WG ;)
> 
> -éric
> 
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> On 17/10/2019, 01:13, "Mops on behalf of Mirja Kühlewind via Datatracker" <mops-bounces@ietf.org on behalf of noreply@ietf.org> wrote:
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>    Mirja Kühlewind has entered the following ballot position for
>    charter-ietf-mops-00-01: Block
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>    The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here:
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>    ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>    BLOCK:
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>    In the IESG we discussed that this group has a different character than most of
>    the other groups we have so far and as such chartering this group has some
>    experimental character. My questions is how do we decide if having this group
>    is a success or when we want or need to close this group at any time in the
>    future? I would like to see something about this in the charter.
> 
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>    COMMENT:
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>    I don't fully understand the goal of the milestones: documenting Streaming
>    Video Alliance (SVA)/Motion Picture and Television Engineers (SMPTE) reliance
>    on IETF protocols.
> 
>    The charter says:
>    "Solicit regular updates from other media technology developing
>    consortia/standards bodies working with IETF-developed protocols."
> 
>    This sounds like the group would use presentation time and the slides in the
>    processing to get these updates and not necessarily write RFCs.
> 
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