Re: [Mops] Calling all agenda items for IETF 107 MOPS

Hi Lucas,

Yes, I watched the thread with interest and was going to follow up in
Vancouver.  :-)  I spent some time late December doing some investigation
related to my use case and feel like I am in a somewhat better position to
contribute.  In the context to MOPS, if there is interest in leveraging
that mechanism more generally it may help energize the BCP development.

Thanks,

Matt

On Fri, Jan 31, 2020 at 12:27 PM Lucas Pardue <lucaspardue.24.7@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hey Matt,
>
> On the topic of Alt-Svc, in the QUIC WG we have been using Alt-Svc for
> HTTP/3 protocol switching and fallback. This has identified a few corner
> cases and possible issues or concerns. I created a thread about this on the
> HTTP WG mailing list [1] mainly framed on seeing if a BCP would make sense.
>
> Widening the discussion to include people is something I'm interested in.
>
> Cheers
> Lucas
>
> [1] -
> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/ietf-http-wg/2019OctDec/0184.html
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, 31 Jan 2020, 17:02 Matt Stock, <mstock@llnw.com> wrote:
>
>> Would there be interest in a discussion of specific delivery challenges
>> and work that has been done/is in progress in other WGs that could help
>> address them?  As an example, many years back the Alt-Svc header [
>> https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc7838] was developed, and there seems to
>> be some patchwork adoption across the ecosystem.  In the context of live or
>> live linear delivery, it could be a useful tool for traffic shifting, and
>> additional testing and engagement with implementers would be valuable.
>> There may be similar topics around HTTP/3 or QUIC.
>>
>> Matt
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 29, 2020 at 2:48 PM Leslie Daigle <ldaigle@thinkingcat.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> As you’ll have seen — we’re planning to meet in Vancouver at IETF 107.
>>> We’ve tried to flag the key conflicts to avoid, but we’re a potential
>>> conflict for a lot of groups, and we’ll have to be patient with how things
>>> work out in scheduling.
>>>
>>> The draft agenda below is still a little light. There are a couple more
>>> areas we are exploring for input, not yet reflected on the agenda, but now
>>> would be a great time to float any particular issues you think would merit
>>> discussion time on the agenda, and let us know.
>>>
>>> We had a good discussion about measuring latency of video delivered with
>>> QUIC last time. What other issues are lurking in transport and application
>>> handling of video in development?
>>>
>>> Leslie.
>>>
>>> DRAFT
>>>
>>> Media OPerationS (MOPS) WG
>>>
>>> IETF 107 (Vancouver)
>>> <Date — TBD>
>>> <Location — TBD>
>>> DRAFT Agenda
>>>
>>> Intro
>>>
>>> Agenda Bashing, Blue Sheets, etc,
>>> [10min] chair(s)
>>>
>>> Review of concrete work items:
>>>
>>> [15min] Draft of edge network operational considerations for streaming
>>> media
>>> Jake Holland
>>> draft-jholland-mops-taxonomy->draft-ietf-mops-streaming-opcons
>>>
>>> Updates from elsewhere
>>>
>>> Updates from other work
>>> [15min] Sanjay Mishra - anything from SVA Open Caching WG
>>> [5min] Glenn Deen -- anything further re SMPTE
>>> [10min] 5G and video <TBC>
>>>
>>> General discussion of issues
>>>
>>> Operational Issues Observed
>>> Multicast and video — experiences from deploying inter domain multicast
>>> for video <TBC>
>>> <looking for suggestions>
>>>
>>> --
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Leslie Daigle
>>> Principal, ThinkingCat Enterprises
>>> ldaigle@thinkingcat.com
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