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Re: [Moq] Exploring HTTP/3

Victor Vasiliev <vasilvv@google.com> Fri, 10 February 2023 09:15 UTC

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From: Victor Vasiliev <vasilvv@google.com>
Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2023 04:15:10 -0500
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To: Luke Curley <kixelated@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [Moq] Exploring HTTP/3
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On Thu, Feb 9, 2023 at 12:56 PM Luke Curley <kixelated@gmail.com> wrote:

> One of the reasons for using WebTransport instead of HTTP/3 is that it
> gives us a firm guarantee that streams share an underlying connection.
> Additionally, QuicTransport used to guarantee that it was a dedicated
> connection, although that went out the window when pooling "support" was
> added.
>

You're still mostly guaranteed that
<https://w3c.github.io/webtransport/#dom-webtransportoptions-allowpooling>
on the browser side, provided that you don't explicitly request pooling
support.

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