Re: [Moq] Charter adjustment

Bernard Aboba <bernard.aboba@gmail.com> Fri, 22 July 2022 03:33 UTC

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Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2022 20:33:40 -0700
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https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-theo-hesp

On Thu, Jul 21, 2022, 7:23 PM Christian Huitema <huitema@huitema.net> wrote:

> On 7/21/2022 7:13 PM, Bernard Aboba wrote:
>
> Ian said:
>
> "HTTPS proxies have been around for a long time, and MoQ shares many of
> those properties."
>
> [BA] Indeed, there are proposals (such as HESP
> <https://www.hespalliance.org/>) aimed at low-latency distribution
> that run over HTTP/3 and support caching.
>
> This begs the question of "Why is MoQ better?"
>
>
> If you want low latency, you need to support datagrams, and have some way
> to fragment long frames over series of datagrams. But then, if you require
> reassembly of fragmented frames at each step in the relaying chain, you can
> easily run into head-of-line blocking. That's something we can handle in
> MoQ. I don't know whether HESP does that -- the specs do not appear to be
> publicly available.
>
> -- Christian Huitema
>