Re: [mpls-tp] [mpls] MPLS WG slides from CMCC
Huub van Helvoort <huubatwork@gmail.com> Tue, 14 December 2010 07:49 UTC
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Subject: Re: [mpls-tp] [mpls] MPLS WG slides from CMCC
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Hello Chris, You wrote: > My concern here is that the requirements are based on a DRAFT. I think you have the order wrong. The MPLS-TP OAM requirements are in RFC5860: http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5860 draft-bhh-MPLS-TP-OAM-Y1731 is a solution based on RFC5860. > Not that > that doesn't happen from time to time, but that does not mean that the > IETF must then standardize that DRAFT. Someone writing a spec based on > DRAFTs are taking an (educated) gamble that that DRAFT will be > standardized and supported by other vendors. draft-bhh-MPLS-TP-OAM-Y1731 provides a set of tools that fits in a larger toolbox with multiple tools. > In short, the decision, is, of course, the prerogative of the purchaser, The service provider can pick a selection of the tools for use in his network by enabling the ones he needs. CMCC and many other service providers have a preference for the tools provided by draft-bhh-MPLS-TP-OAM-Y1731. Best regards, Huub. =================== > On 11Nov2010, at 18.52, Larry wrote: > >> Dear Huub: >> >> Yes! >> Actually, China Mobile has introduced 38,000 PTN equipments based on >> pre-standard G.8114 in 2009. China Mobile will introduce more than >> 110,000 PTN equipments based on draft-bhh-MPLS-TP-OAM-Y1731 in 2010. >> We will upgrade G.8114 to Y.1731 based OAM by the end of this year. >> Because Draft-bhh and relevant CCSA standard are based on Y.1731, so I >> use Y.1731 to present all of them. >> Thank you! >> >> Best regards, >> >> Han Li >> >> ************************************************************************* >> Han Li, Ph.D >> China Mobile Research Institute >> Unit 2, 28 Xuanwumenxi Ave, Xuanwu District, Beijing 100053, China >> Fax: +86 10 63601087 >> MOBILE: 13501093385 >> ************************************************************************* >> >> >> --- 10年11月11日,周四, Huub van Helvoort <hhelvoort@chello.nl >> <mailto:hhelvoort@chello.nl>> 写道: >> >>> 发件人: Huub van Helvoort <hhelvoort@chello.nl >>> <mailto:hhelvoort@chello.nl>> >>> 主题: Re: [mpls-tp] [mpls] MPLS WG slides from CMCC >>> 收件人: mpls@ietf.org <mailto:mpls@ietf.org> >>> 抄送: "'lihan'" <lihan@chinamobile.com >>> <mailto:lihan@chinamobile.com>>, "Ad hoc MPLS-TP" >>> <ahmpls-tp@lists.itu.int <mailto:ahmpls-tp@lists.itu.int>>, >>> "mpls-tp@ietf.org <mailto:mpls-tp@ietf.org>" <mpls-tp@ietf.org >>> <mailto:mpls-tp@ietf.org>> >>> 日期: 2010年11月11日,周四,下午3:21 >>> Li Han, 你好! >>> >>> Thank you very much for this informative information. >>> >>>> http://wiki.tools.ietf.org/misc/mpls-tp/attachment/wiki/meeting-notes/CMCC%20implementation%20and%20consideration%20for%20MPLS-TP-01.pdf >>>> >>>> There are links from the meetings materials page >>>> (http://wiki.tools.ietf.org/misc/mpls-tp/wiki/meeting-notes) >>> and from the wiki >>>> home page (http://wiki.tools.ietf.org/misc/mpls-tp/) >>> >>> I have a question about slide 3: >>> the last bullet states: OAM: "based on Y.1731 and pre- >>> standard G.8114" >>> >>> By "based on Y.1731" do you refer to >>> draft-bhh-mpls-tp-oam-y1731 >>> and the CCSA standard that will soon be published? >>> >>> Thank you, Huub. -- ***************************************************************** 我爱外点一七三一
- Re: [mpls-tp] [mpls] MPLS WG slides from CMCC Huub van Helvoort
- Re: [mpls-tp] [mpls] MPLS WG slides from CMCC Malcolm.BETTS
- Re: [mpls-tp] [mpls] MPLS WG slides from CMCC Larry
- Re: [mpls-tp] [mpls] MPLS WG slides from CMCC Huub van Helvoort
- Re: [mpls-tp] [mpls] MPLS WG slides from CMCC Christopher LILJENSTOLPE
- Re: [mpls-tp] [mpls] MPLS WG slides from CMCC Huub van Helvoort
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