Re: [mpls-tp] [mpls] MPLS WG slides from CMCC

Huub van Helvoort <huubatwork@gmail.com> Tue, 14 December 2010 07:49 UTC

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Hello Chris,

You wrote:

> My concern here is that the requirements are based on a DRAFT.

I think you have the order wrong.
The MPLS-TP OAM requirements are in RFC5860:
http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5860

draft-bhh-MPLS-TP-OAM-Y1731 is a solution based on RFC5860.

> Not that
> that doesn't happen from time to time, but that does not mean that the
> IETF must then standardize that DRAFT. Someone writing a spec based on
> DRAFTs are taking an (educated) gamble that that DRAFT will be
> standardized and supported by other vendors.

draft-bhh-MPLS-TP-OAM-Y1731 provides a set of tools that fits in
a larger toolbox with multiple tools.

> In short, the decision, is, of course, the prerogative of the purchaser,

The service provider can pick a selection of the tools for
use in his network by enabling the ones he needs.
CMCC and many other service providers have a preference for
the tools provided by draft-bhh-MPLS-TP-OAM-Y1731.

Best regards, Huub.

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> On 11Nov2010, at 18.52, Larry wrote:
>
>> Dear Huub:
>>
>> Yes!
>> Actually, China Mobile has introduced 38,000 PTN equipments based on
>> pre-standard G.8114 in 2009. China Mobile will introduce more than
>> 110,000 PTN equipments based on draft-bhh-MPLS-TP-OAM-Y1731 in 2010.
>> We will upgrade G.8114 to Y.1731 based OAM by the end of this year.
>> Because Draft-bhh and relevant CCSA standard are based on Y.1731, so I
>> use Y.1731 to present all of them.
>> Thank you!
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Han Li
>>
>> *************************************************************************
>> Han Li, Ph.D
>> China Mobile Research Institute
>> Unit 2, 28 Xuanwumenxi Ave, Xuanwu District, Beijing 100053, China
>> Fax: +86 10 63601087
>> MOBILE: 13501093385
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>>
>>
>> --- 10年11月11日,周四, Huub van Helvoort <hhelvoort@chello.nl
>> <mailto:hhelvoort@chello.nl>> 写道:
>>
>>> 发件人: Huub van Helvoort <hhelvoort@chello.nl
>>> <mailto:hhelvoort@chello.nl>>
>>> 主题: Re: [mpls-tp] [mpls] MPLS WG slides from CMCC
>>> 收件人: mpls@ietf.org <mailto:mpls@ietf.org>
>>> 抄送: "'lihan'" <lihan@chinamobile.com
>>> <mailto:lihan@chinamobile.com>>, "Ad hoc MPLS-TP"
>>> <ahmpls-tp@lists.itu.int <mailto:ahmpls-tp@lists.itu.int>>,
>>> "mpls-tp@ietf.org <mailto:mpls-tp@ietf.org>" <mpls-tp@ietf.org
>>> <mailto:mpls-tp@ietf.org>>
>>> 日期: 2010年11月11日,周四,下午3:21
>>> Li Han, 你好!
>>>
>>> Thank you very much for this informative information.
>>>
>>>> http://wiki.tools.ietf.org/misc/mpls-tp/attachment/wiki/meeting-notes/CMCC%20implementation%20and%20consideration%20for%20MPLS-TP-01.pdf
>>>>
>>>> There are links from the meetings materials page
>>>> (http://wiki.tools.ietf.org/misc/mpls-tp/wiki/meeting-notes)
>>> and from the wiki
>>>> home page (http://wiki.tools.ietf.org/misc/mpls-tp/)
>>>
>>> I have a question about slide 3:
>>> the last bullet states: OAM: "based on Y.1731 and pre-
>>> standard G.8114"
>>>
>>> By "based on Y.1731" do you refer to
>>> draft-bhh-mpls-tp-oam-y1731
>>> and the CCSA standard that will soon be published?
>>>
>>> Thank you, Huub.


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